Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide"
available as a single file.
I need it available when the network is not.
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when
installing from DVD1 were available.
On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide"
available as a single file.
I need it available when the network is not.
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when
installing from DVD1 were available.
Have you tried googling:
debian stable installation guide pdf amd64
which should lead you to:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.en.pdf
Cheers,
David.
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing
from DVD1 were available.
On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide"
available as a single file.
I need it available when the network is not.
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when
installing from DVD1 were available.
Have you tried googling:
debian stable installation guide pdf amd64
which should lead you to:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.en.pdf
No ;}
For two primary reasons:
1. due to vision/perception problems I avoid PDF in favor of HTML.
SeaMonkey simplifies consistent font size across documents.
2. My work style uses tabs to group (and save across restarts)
related references conveniently.
Secondarily, for those preferring PDF, in my use of SeaMonkey since
days of Squeeze I never noticed mention of its documentation being
available as PDF.
Because I'm doing a "from scratch" install for the first time in
several years, I said:
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing from DVD1 were available.
I recall most of what has to be accomplished but am hazy on some
details. So I went looking at https://www.debian.org/ from a "newbie"
point of view. ~Nada:{
Drilling down leads to https://www.debian.org/do_c/ which first points
our possibly non-geek newbie to "Installation Guide" and "Debian
GNU/Linux FAQ" which, though brimming with facts, are inconveniently organized.
*HOWEVER* there is something _NEW_ on the page!
Who, me, excited ;}
There is now something called _The Debian Bookworm beginner’s
handbook_ [
https://debian-beginners-handbook.tuxfamily.org/index-en.html ].
For reasons stated above I'll be using the HTML more than the PDF.
This resource should be linked to on https://www.debian.org/ or at
most down only one level.
I addresses some of my questions, though it only mentions others.
I'll be doing a lot of reading this weekend.
One question. There are two HTML versions. What's difference between the_beginners_handbook.html and the_beginners_handbook_night.html ?
On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 07:53:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide"
available as a single file.
I need it available when the network is not.
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when
installing from DVD1 were available.
Have you tried googling:
debian stable installation guide pdf amd64
which should lead you to:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.en.pdf
No ;}
For two primary reasons:
1. due to vision/perception problems I avoid PDF in favor of HTML.
SeaMonkey simplifies consistent font size across documents.
2. My work style uses tabs to group (and save across restarts)
related references conveniently.
Secondarily, for those preferring PDF, in my use of SeaMonkey since
days of Squeeze I never noticed mention of its documentation being
available as PDF.
The PDF is ~650kB, but for ~17MB you can get all three formats (PDF/text/HTML) as one file (in the sense it seems you mean) in
the Debian package installation-guide-amd64.
Using tabs isn't affected by whether the HTML code itself is in
a "single" file or a tree.
Because I'm doing a "from scratch" install for the first time in
several years, I said:
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing
from DVD1 were available.
Sorry, I would have thought you could recite them from memory by now :)
I recall most of what has to be accomplished but am hazy on some
details. So I went looking at https://www.debian.org/ from a "newbie"
point of view. ~Nada:{
Drilling down leads to https://www.debian.org/do_c/ which first points
FTR remove the "_".
our possibly non-geek newbie to "Installation Guide" and "Debian
GNU/Linux FAQ" which, though brimming with facts, are inconveniently
organized.
Oh dear, I thought that was how the Installation Guide had been
organised since the days of yore.
*HOWEVER* there is something _NEW_ on the page!
Who, me, excited ;}
There is now something called _The Debian Bookworm beginner’s
handbook_ [
https://debian-beginners-handbook.tuxfamily.org/index-en.html ].
For reasons stated above I'll be using the HTML more than the PDF.
This resource should be linked to on https://www.debian.org/ or at
most down only one level.
I don't think it makes sense to promote this above the two you've
already mentioned.
I addresses some of my questions, though it only mentions others.
I'll be doing a lot of reading this weekend.
If you like it. I prefer the detail of the other two, and it now
sounds as if you might.
One question. There are two HTML versions. What's difference between
the_beginners_handbook.html and the_beginners_handbook_night.html ?
It should be as clear as night and day from the very start of each,
but:
$ diff -U0 the*/the* > diff (attached)
Cheers,
David.
Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available
as a single file.
I need it available when the network is not.
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing
from DVD1 were available.
On 09/20/2024 10:57 AM, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 07:53:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available as a single file.
I need it available when the network is not.
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing from DVD1 were available.
Have you tried googling:
debian stable installation guide pdf amd64
which should lead you to:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.en.pdf
No ;}
For two primary reasons:
1. due to vision/perception problems I avoid PDF in favor of HTML.
SeaMonkey simplifies consistent font size across documents.
2. My work style uses tabs to group (and save across restarts)
related references conveniently.
Secondarily, for those preferring PDF, in my use of SeaMonkey since
days of Squeeze I never noticed mention of its documentation being available as PDF.
The PDF is ~650kB, but for ~17MB you can get all three formats (PDF/text/HTML) as one file (in the sense it seems you mean) in
the Debian package installation-guide-amd64.
As you didn't give a URL, I went to https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%22Debian%22%20%22package%22%20%22installation-guide-amd64%22
That did not link to "all three formats (PDF/text/HTML) as one file" available to one who does not have Debian already installed.
1st hit of "Details of package installation-guide-amd64 in bullseye" prompted travel in right direction.
I've been using Debian since Squeeze. I have never been pointed to
[ /usr/share/doc ] nor [ /usr/share/doc-base ]. The latter contains
the "Installation Guide" as uncompressed HTML filed. PDF&text versions
are there in compressed format.
Using tabs isn't affected by whether the HTML code itself is in
a "single" file or a tree.
My mention of tabs was to point out why PDF was not useful.
Because I'm doing a "from scratch" install for the first time in
several years, I said:
It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing from DVD1 were available.
Sorry, I would have thought you could recite them from memory by now :)
Tell me that with a straight face when you pass 80 ;)!
[I haven't seen that set of screens in at least 5 years.]
On 09/19/2024 09:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide"
available as a single file.
I need it available when the network is not.
IF you have *already* installed Debian, the individual HTML files and compressed copies of the PDF and plain text versions are in /usr/share/doc/installation-guide-amd64/en/ .
I have not found where this would be available to a potential first
time user of Debian.
On Sat 21 Sep 2024 at 07:03:58 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:*SNIP*
Tell me that with a straight face when you pass 80 ;)!
[I haven't seen that set of screens in at least 5 years.]
I recalled a "SUCESSFUL INSTALL" [sic] status report from May 2022,
and also thought you had restarted installing about 3 months ago.
Perhaps I was assuming too much.
*A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot"
system. Debian users make a strong distinction between the two.
On 2024-09-23, Richard Owlett wrote:
*A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot"
system. Debian users make a strong distinction between the two.
I have never heard of such a distinction. Could you provide your sources ?
On 09/24/2024 03:42 AM, Michel Verdier wrote:
On 2024-09-23, Richard Owlett wrote:
*A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or
"multi-boot" system. Debian users make a strong distinction
between the two.
I have never heard of such a distinction. Could you provide your
sources ?
No. It's come up in threads over the years. I've never seen the logic
of distinguishing between "dual-booting" Windows/Linux and
"multi-booting" Linux/Linux". I've had a Windows/32 bit Linux/64 bit
Linux setup.
My phrasing was an attempt to attract replies from all who use either
the term "dual-boot" or "multi-boot".
On 09/24/2024 03:42 AM, Michel Verdier wrote:
On 2024-09-23, Richard Owlett wrote:
*A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot"
system. Debian users make a strong distinction between the two.
I have never heard of such a distinction. Could you provide your sources ?
No. It's come up in threads over the years. I've never seen the logic of distinguishing between "dual-booting" Windows/Linux and "multi-booting" Linux/Linux". I've had a Windows/32 bit Linux/64 bit Linux setup.
My phrasing was an attempt to attract replies from all who use either
the term "dual-boot" or "multi-boot".
A primary deficiency of Debian documentation is lack of indexes
[despite having file titles of form index.html ].
[q.v. https://differencesfinder.com/index-vs-table-of-contents-key-differences-explained/
]
My current goal to multi-boot my primary machine without clobbering
existing valuable data (even if that data has been backed-up).
*A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot"
system. Debian users make a strong distinction between the two.
On Mon 23 Sep 2024 at 06:31:21 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
A primary deficiency of Debian documentation is lack of indexes
[despite having file titles of form index.html ].
[q.v. https://differencesfinder.com/index-vs-table-of-contents-key-differences-explained/
]
AIUI index.html is just a conventional name for the landing page
when you demand a domainname or directory without any filename.
As for indexes, well, that takes work, so who's going to do it?
People make a living as freelance indexers.
OTOH, logically, TOCs write themselves as part of the process of
designing a document, and physically, they should be easy to generate
from chapter/section headings, while it is processed for publication.
My current goal to multi-boot my primary machine without clobbering
existing valuable data (even if that data has been backed-up).
*A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot"
system. Debian users make a strong distinction between the two.
I don't see any defining difference between the two terms (beyond
obviously not using the former where there are more than two
installations).
Cheers,
David.
On Mon 23 Sep 2024 at 06:31:21 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
*A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot" system. Debian users make a strong distinction between the two.
I don't see any defining difference between the two terms (beyond
obviously not using the former where there are more than two
installations).
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