On Saturday, 24-08-2024 at 08:11 Joe B wrote:

Hello,

i've been having an issue where my laptop powers off randomly when
not connected to power. This has been happening since stable and
currently i'm on unstable. I would like to use my laptop without
power.

Joe,

Your issue seems to be experienced by other Aspire E5-575 users.

I believe this to be a hardware fault, not something that Debian can assist you with. Maybe others who post here, have an idea that could help?

The Acer Aspire E5-575-77CR is a powerful laptop with the latest Windows 11 operating system. It packs a 7th generation Intel Core i7-7500U processor, providing up to 3.50 GHz of speed.
Model Aspire 5 (2019)
Release date April 2019

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/562962/acer-e5-575g-52da-charging-battery-issues
3. Whenever unplugged my laptop doesn’t stay on, switches off right away!

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/561611/acer-aspire-e-15-e5-575g-shuts-down-when-unplugged
Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575G Shuts Down When Unplugged
My laptop that is 1.5 years old instantly shuts down the moment it is unplugged.
I've tried using the reset battery button at the back as well as other variations of that fix to no avail.
My battery also says "98% available, (plugged in, charging)" but it doesn't decrease or increase from that 98%.

https://www.quora.com/I-have-an-Acer-E5-574-laptop-Its-battery-always-shows-100-charged-but-as-soon-as-I-unplugged-the-charger-it-got-turned-off-What-is-the-issue-with-the-battery-What-should-I-do
I have an Acer E5-574 laptop. Its battery always shows 100% charged, but as soon as I unplugged the charger it got turned off. What is the issue with the battery? What should I do?

https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/715997/Why+does+my+laptop+suddenly+shuts+down+with+no+signs+of+life?srsltid=AfmBOopv9IHYAnotNCj5CDyq03YEVaSQliLnhTRw_g-CkgUxI97vUUTV
My Acer Aspire E5-575G stopped charging up to 100%. It usually stops charging around 93-96%. When unplugged, it suddenly goes off at around 54 - 57% and will not turn on no matter what I do. When it suddenly goes of, it doesn't indicate signs of life/
power when I plug it in to charge. (That is, the orange light won't turn on to indicate charging)

I've tried resetting the battery several times and it still won't switch on, I even went as far as opening up the pc to disconnect and reconnect the built-in battery, but it still won't turn on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMKzefxhhqY
Acer Aspire E5 575 Battery Replacement Guide


George.

Please advise on what logs you might need

System Information
Manufacturer: Acer
Product Name: Aspire E5-575

uname -a
Linux debian 6.10.6-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.10.6-1
(2024-08-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux

lsmod
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Module Size Used by
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ADE
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0

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d_sof_pci_intel_skl,snd_pcm_dmaengine
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0

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lsb_release -a
----
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid
Release: n/a
Codename: trixie

lspci
----
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core
Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers
(rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 620 (rev 02) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0
xHCI Controller (rev 21)
00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise
Point-LP Thermal subsystem (rev 21)
00:15.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise
Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (re
v 21)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP
CSME HECI #1 (rev 21)
00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SATA
Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 21)
00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express
Root Port #9 (rev f1)
00:1d.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express
Root Port #11 (rev f1)
00:1d.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d1b (rev f1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point LPC/eSPI Controller (rev 21)
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02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 31)
03:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8411B PCI Express Card Reader (rev 0
1)
03:00.1 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit
Ethernet Controller (rev 12)

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Am Samstag, 24. August 2024, 18:08:00 CEST schrieb Max Nikulin:

On 24/08/2024 05:11, Joe B wrote:

i've been having an issue where my laptop powers off randomly when
not connected to power. This has been happening since stable and
currently i'm on unstable. I would like to use my laptop without
power.

Check temperature! If it shuts down due to overheating, check /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log. There should be an entry for it.

There are also tools, which check sensors and show its actual state. Look for gkrellm or others.

Most problems with notebooks, is the air release ist often full of dust. Relating to the processor use, it may overheat or not.

Check the air flow is good.

Hope this helps.

Best

Hans

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On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 06:22:40PM +0200, Hans wrote:

Am Samstag, 24. August 2024, 18:08:00 CEST schrieb Max Nikulin:

On 24/08/2024 05:11, Joe B wrote:

i've been having an issue where my laptop powers off randomly when
not connected to power. This has been happening since stable and currently i'm on unstable. I would like to use my laptop without
power.

Check temperature! If it shuts down due to overheating, check /var/log/syslog
or /var/log/kern.log. There should be an entry for it.

While a heat problem might still be possible, it's quite improbable since the OP said that it only happens when runing on battery.

Cheers
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t

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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:50:23 +0200
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 06:22:40PM +0200, Hans wrote:

Am Samstag, 24. August 2024, 18:08:00 CEST schrieb Max Nikulin:

On 24/08/2024 05:11, Joe B wrote:

i've been having an issue where my laptop powers off randomly
when not connected to power. This has been happening since
stable and currently i'm on unstable. I would like to use my
laptop without power.

Check temperature! If it shuts down due to overheating, check /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log. There should be an entry for
it.

While a heat problem might still be possible, it's quite improbable
since the OP said that it only happens when runing on battery.

Probably not but not definitely not. There will be some difference in
power circuitry in use between mains and battery, and it is possible for
the mains path circuitry to run cooler than that in the battery path,
maybe better sited for airflow. It is even possible for the circulating
air to get slightly hotter on battery and trigger a thermal intermittent somewhere else entirely.

If the problem is hardware, cleaning out dust and reseating plugs and
sockets are going to be the easiest things to try first. Not trivial,
laptops don't come apart easily, but actual component failure is going
to be very difficult to diagnose and maybe impossible to fix. I once
saw a desktop motherboard where a memory stick had been badly seated
and blown a power switch IC. It could be seen to be damaged. It was
impossible to obtain this part in Europe.

Certainly, heat is a suspect here, and monitoring whatever temperature
sensors exist seems like a good first approach. Nearly forgot, reseat
the battery first of all, there may be a slightly poor connection there.

--
Joe

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On Saturday 24 August 2024 03:36:28 pm Joe wrote:

Not trivial,
laptops don't come apart easily, but actual component failure is going
to be very difficult to diagnose and maybe impossible to fix.

Yup. I have three laptops over there that I was given, waiting for me to do something with them. I'm in no particular hurry.

The last laptop I used, left it plugged in all the time and eventually the battery deteriorated, something went wrong and it wouldn't charge up any more. After that I ended up with a "system board error" at which point I gave up on it. I did get 6-7
years of use out of it, amyhow...

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On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:07:59 -0700
Joe B <[email protected]> wrote:

On August 25, 2024 5:37:05 PM PDT, "Roy J. Tellason, Sr."
<[email protected]> wrote:

The last laptop I used, left it plugged in all the time and
eventually the battery deteriorated, something went wrong and it
wouldn't charge up any more.

So do you recommend me not keep it plugged in all the time and see if
the issue resolved it self or with your guys help troubleshooting?

Not now. That's good advice from new, pretty much all rechargeable
battery types lose a little capacity every time they are charged right
up to the limit, less so if charged less. A continuously-charged
lithium battery might typically last three to five years, which is not a problem if you buy a new laptop every year, but most of us don't.

If you have the discipline, or a configuration option as a few lithium
battery devices have, it's optimal to recharge when the charge level is
down to around 50% and to charge to no more than 90%. This will
maximise the life of nearly all types of battery, including lead-acid.

Some people operate almost entirely away from the mains, and need every possible second of battery life, but most people use laptops indoors,
and indeed, keep them plugged in all the time.

It's not that replacement batteries are enormously expensive, it's more
a matter that you never know how good the replacements are, even if
they are 'genuine manufacturer's original', and one that's specific to a particular laptop series may become unobtainable too quickly. And a
general dislike of waste, of course.

--
Joe

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