On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 09:09:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:

I like this forum/format

Not wanting to try to convince people on a mailing list to not be on
a mailing list, so keeping this brief, but…

IMO Discord pretty much sucks.

Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of
software made by different people with different purposes. You are
the first person to have mentioned Discord in this thread.

Thanks,
Andy

I am on the Discord list for klipper and other 3d printing friends. Its generally good. We even get answers from the sw's authors. Solid,
knowledgeable answers. It can be a breath of fresh air.
Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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Hi,

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote:

Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of
software made by different people with different purposes. You are
the first person to have mentioned Discord in this thread.

I am on the Discord list for klipper and other 3d printing friends. Its generally good. We even get answers from the sw's authors. Solid, knowledgeable answers. It can be a breath of fresh air.

I believe that you, now, are referring to Discourse installs, but
calling them Discord, which is only increasing people's confusion.

Unless you actually *are* talking about the realtime chat service
(like IRC), which would be unusual for a software support community
but not unheard of (rsync recently switched to using Discord for
realtime chat, for example).

Thanks,
Andy

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On 7/29/24 03:53, Andy Smith wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote:

Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of
software made by different people with different purposes. You are
the first person to have mentioned Discord in this thread.

I am on the Discord list for klipper and other 3d printing friends. Its
generally good. We even get answers from the sw's authors. Solid,
knowledgeable answers. It can be a breath of fresh air.

I believe that you, now, are referring to Discourse installs, but
calling them Discord, which is only increasing people's confusion.

The icon on the opening firefox screen is self labeled Discord Andy, a
one click login to the main menu. I can click on it, post a msg, and get
a useful reply in less than 5 minutes elapsed time quite often. Not only
that, but the usual method they use for trouble shooting involves
posting the complete log from a current session of klipper, a log which
can run to 15 megabytes, no problem because of the size. I can't even
post a 10k .png here. Or a screen snap showing the problem in far more
detail than I can describe and get called a liar for trying to describe
it it text. The last calendar I have is for 2024, why is debian still
running on dialup rules from 1995?

Unless you actually *are* talking about the realtime chat service
(like IRC), which would be unusual for a software support community
but not unheard of (rsync recently switched to using Discord for
realtime chat, for example).

Thanks,
Andy

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

[...] I can't even post a 10k .png here.

I don't believe you. There sure is a limit, 10k seems too small.

It'd be unpolite anyway -- forcing 6k people to download your
attachments (there are still folks on limited bandwidth, y'know).

There is paste.debian.net for that: dump your cat vid there, include
a link in the mail, done.

Complaining is always OK, but it is even more OK to do some research
before :-)

Cheers
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

On 7/29/24 03:53, Andy Smith wrote:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote:

Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of software made by different people with different purposes. You are
the first person to have mentioned Discord in this thread.

I am on the Discord list for klipper and other 3d printing friends. Its generally good. We even get answers from the sw's authors. Solid, knowledgeable answers. It can be a breath of fresh air.

I believe that you, now, are referring to Discourse installs, but
calling them Discord, which is only increasing people's confusion.

The icon on the opening firefox screen is self labeled Discord Andy, a one click login to the main menu.

Okay well a quick look says that the Klipper community has both a
Discourse and Discord so I am still not sure which you refer to.

https://www.klipper3d.org/Contact.html

"There is a Klipper Community Discourse server for "forum" style
discussions on Klipper. Note that Discourse is not Discord."

"There is a Discord server dedicated to Klipper at:
https://discord.klipper3d.org. Note that Discord is not
Discourse."

It doesn't really matter.

Since the topic here was forum-style discussion, I was referring to
Discourse although for a question/answer purpose I actually
recommend Stack-like sites; AskUbuntu would be the nearest example.

Point is, as you can see by Klipper's page as well, people often
confuse Discourse and Discord but they are very different things.

Thanks,
Andy

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On 7/29/24 04:47, [email protected] wrote:

On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

[...] I can't even post a 10k .png here.

I don't believe you. There sure is a limit, 10k seems too small.

It may have been bigger, its long forgotten but it was small and it was silently stripped.

It'd be unpolite anyway -- forcing 6k people to download your
attachments (there are still folks on limited bandwidth, y'know).

I'm on shentel's lowest cost account, phone and net. No tv. rooftop
antenna. 100 gig a month which I only approached for 2 months, found
the neighbor across the street was using my wifi to watch porn on his
fone. Turned off the wifi so I'm using only a gig or 5 a month.

There is paste.debian.net for that: dump your cat vid there, include
a link in the mail, done.

That doesn't appear to be public knowledge, thank you

Complaining is always OK, but it is even more OK to do some research
before :-)

Cheers

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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