i run debian testing most of the time with bits of
unstable (firefox).
once in a while i want more detail than man pages
supply and so i reach for info pages instead.
if you've never explored info pages in general
you can just start with the command "info".
this is just a tidbit for those who wander once in
a while into strange realms... :)
On 2024-07-23 13:03, songbird wrote:
i run debian testing most of the time with bits of
unstable (firefox).
once in a while i want more detail than man pages
supply and so i reach for info pages instead.
if you've never explored info pages in general
you can just start with the command "info".
this is just a tidbit for those who wander once in
a while into strange realms... :)
apropos is sometimes handy if you can't remember what a thing is called
where some nice formatting is done in the GUI Emacs version. The
stand alone GNU info browser is rather obtuse. I found a much better
option to be the independent pinfo (Debian package of the same name)
browser which provides navigation up and down through the document
using Lynx style key bindings. If pinfo doesn't find an info document
it will open a man page when one is available.
To be honest I'm not happy with the info format still being around,
precisely because sometimes man pages don't cut it, and we should have something better by now. On the other hand, and I'll make no bones
about it, so called chatbots turned out to be extremely useful
(overused) for me in that respect and are now doing enough of the job
for about 80% of the time. You just can't beat that for speed or
convenience, and when is there no internet connection.
Nate Bargmann <[email protected]> schreef op 27 juli 2024 13:00:17 UTC:
I typically will search for an HTML version of a GNU manual. TheIt's a pity that besides 'manpages.debian.org',
only
problem is that what is found online are the latest versions and
Debian
Stable packages may be a version or two behind.
'infopages.debian.org' doesn't exist.
I typically will search for an HTML version of a GNU manual. The only >problem is that what is found online are the latest versions and Debian >Stable packages may be a version or two behind.It's a pity that besides 'manpages.debian.org', 'infopages.debian.org' doesn't exist.
The GNU info documentation is really intended to be read in Emacs where
some nice formatting is done in the GUI Emacs version. The stand alone
GNU info browser is rather obtuse. I found a much better option to be
the independent pinfo (Debian package of the same name) browser which provides navigation up and down through the document using Lynx style
key bindings. If pinfo doesn't find an info document it will open a man
page when one is available.
On 2024-07-23 11:13:47 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
The GNU info documentation is really intended to be read in Emacs where some nice formatting is done in the GUI Emacs version. The stand alone
GNU info browser is rather obtuse. I found a much better option to be
the independent pinfo (Debian package of the same name) browser which provides navigation up and down through the document using Lynx style
key bindings. If pinfo doesn't find an info document it will open a man page when one is available.
But for searching, how can one get the previous match with pinfo?
(info has { and } to navigate through the matches, Lynx has n and N,
but what about pinfo?)
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2024-07-23 11:13:47 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
The GNU info documentation is really intended to be read in Emacs where some nice formatting is done in the GUI Emacs version. The stand alone GNU info browser is rather obtuse. I found a much better option to be the independent pinfo (Debian package of the same name) browser which provides navigation up and down through the document using Lynx style
key bindings. If pinfo doesn't find an info document it will open a man page when one is available.
But for searching, how can one get the previous match with pinfo?
(info has { and } to navigate through the matches, Lynx has n and N,
but what about pinfo?)
I think you define KEY_SEARCH_AGAIN_1 to whichever keystroke you want.
(AIUI it has no default already defined in /etc/.pinforc)
On 2024-07-28 00:08:51 -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2024-07-23 11:13:47 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
The GNU info documentation is really intended to be read in Emacs where some nice formatting is done in the GUI Emacs version. The stand alone GNU info browser is rather obtuse. I found a much better option to be the independent pinfo (Debian package of the same name) browser which provides navigation up and down through the document using Lynx style key bindings. If pinfo doesn't find an info document it will open a man
page when one is available.
But for searching, how can one get the previous match with pinfo?
(info has { and } to navigate through the matches, Lynx has n and N,
but what about pinfo?)
I think you define KEY_SEARCH_AGAIN_1 to whichever keystroke you want. (AIUI it has no default already defined in /etc/.pinforc)
KEY_SEARCH_AGAIN_1 gives the *next* match, not the previous one.
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:23:48 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2024-07-28 00:08:51 -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
But for searching, how can one get the previous match with pinfo?
(info has { and } to navigate through the matches, Lynx has n and N, but what about pinfo?)
I think you define KEY_SEARCH_AGAIN_1 to whichever keystroke you want. (AIUI it has no default already defined in /etc/.pinforc)
KEY_SEARCH_AGAIN_1 gives the *next* match, not the previous one.
Sorry, yes, I think it helps to be able to subconciously count (but
avoid being afflicted by OCD), and press Home and n-1 SearchAgains.
(Even more tedious than searching backwards and forwards in xpdf,
where you have to toggle a button.)
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