• Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

    From CToID@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 2 21:40:03 2024
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    Hello folks,

    I wonder if any of you who is using an AMD GPU (especially newer ones)
    has encountered the same problem as I do.

    My problem is that sometimes the screen just freezes entirely, and I
    have to switch to another TTY and back in order to get it unstuck. But
    the same freeze will usually happen again after I get the things
    unstuck. Restart my PC doesn't fix the problem.

    Here are some informations about my system:

    - CPU/GPU: AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840U w/ Radeon 780M Graphics
    - vainfo output: in attachment `vainfo-output`
    - system log: in attachment `sys-log`

    I do find a workaround online somewhere, that is to set `amdgpu.vm_update_mode=3` kernel parameter, and it seems to fix the problem.

    I never have this kind of problem on Linux distros I used before Debian
    (Void, OpenSUSE,) so if anyone has some idea why this happens, please
    give me some advice, thanks!

    --
    Best,

    ID
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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 3 17:00:01 2024
    If it is of any interest...

    Two of us are using AMDGPU for Radeon RX 7700 (one computer) and RX 6600 (four computers). Two computers have XFCE the other have KDE (no Gnome).

    The Radeon RX 7700 runs Arch Linux, the other Debian 12 (Bookworm), all kept up to date.

    A while ago we had a few lock ups which we put down to what we were doing, like having too many tabs open in Firefox while running 100% CPU utilisation while gaming.

    However now that we are reducing the number of open tabs, we have not experienced a lock up for some time. It maybe be a result of some of the pages that were connected. Issues seemed to happen when certain web sites were opened. Only happened so
    infrequently, it was hard to find a pattern.

    I am always concerned about running X11 programs under a Wayland GUI, particularly with screen sharing a X11 game or using OBS Studio, something which was also what we were doing.

    Since we are no longer experiencing lockups, I wonder if your system has become stable, and if you have tried limiting what concurrent software you are using, particularly mixing X11 and Wayland native programs that are interacting with each other. I can
    only imagine the hoops the software is going through, I am amazed it all works.

    George.

    On Wednesday, 03-07-2024 at 21:31 Richard wrote:
    Have the same issue, though it's pretty much impossible to reproduce it reliably. But it seems to be a general issue with the AMDGPU driver in
    Linux 6.1+:
    https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=292673&p=2

    It also seems to already have an official tracker: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3163

    Best
    Richard

    Am Mi., 3. Juli 2024 um 01:53 Uhr schrieb CToID <[email protected]>:

    Hello folks,

    I wonder if any of you who is using an AMD GPU (especially newer ones)
    has encountered the same problem as I do.

    My problem is that sometimes the screen just freezes entirely, and I
    have to switch to another TTY and back in order to get it unstuck. But
    the same freeze will usually happen again after I get the things
    unstuck. Restart my PC doesn't fix the problem.

    Here are some informations about my system:

    - CPU/GPU: AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840U w/ Radeon 780M Graphics
    - vainfo output: in attachment `vainfo-output`
    - system log: in attachment `sys-log`

    I do find a workaround online somewhere, that is to set `amdgpu.vm_update_mode=3` kernel parameter, and it seems to fix the problem.

    I never have this kind of problem on Linux distros I used before Debian (Void, OpenSUSE,) so if anyone has some idea why this happens, please
    give me some advice, thanks!

    --
    Best,

    ID


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  • From Charlie Gibbs@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jul 3 21:40:01 2024
    On Wed Jul 3 11:56:12 2024 Greg Marks <[email protected]> wrote:

    I'm not sure if this is related, but a couple years ago I had multiple computer freezes possibly caused by nouveau. The screen froze; the
    keyboard and mouse were unresponsive. (If I remember correctly, the
    mouse pointer could be moved around on the screen, but it wouldn't
    do anything.) Sometimes I could ssh to the machine and run certain commands; often I would have to hold down the power button to force
    a shutdown and then start it back up (which produces lots of orphaned
    inodes until one does a clean reboot).

    <snip>

    Whether these issues are connected with the OP's problem, and whether
    the crashes have to do with nouveau or bad RAM or something else, I
    don't know. My "solution" was to stop using software (e.g. certain
    Web browsers) that seemed to have been running at the time of the
    crashes.

    My solution was to stop using nouveau.

    --
    [email protected] (Charlie Gibbs)

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