• Re: [Solved]: What DE to replace GNOME with?

    From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to DdB on Sat Jun 1 11:10:01 2024
    On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 08:52:14AM +0200, DdB wrote:
    Am 31.05.2024 um 12:57 schrieb DdB:
    Hello,


    Now is the time to plan ahead for years to come and i don't know, what i should do.

    DdB

    Thanks for all your input.
    In the meantime, i did check for the specific gnome-extensions and
    found, that both ere still working fine on bullseye. Thus i decided to
    just go the "little step" of moving from debian 10 to 11 for the time
    being. No need to mess with my habits in that case. :-)
    DdB


    Hi DdB,

    You would need to go from buster - bullseye to bookworm anyway.

    Read the Release Notes for Bullseye to pick up on any changes.

    Do note also that Bookworm is currently supported: Bullseye security
    support ends round July 31st this year as Bullseye will move to LTS.

    You might want to repeat the upgrade process in a couple of months :)

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy Cater

    ([email protected])

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  • From Dan Ritter@21:1/5 to DdB on Sat Jun 1 13:00:01 2024
    DdB wrote:
    Am 01.06.2024 um 11:02 schrieb Andrew M.A. Cater:
    You would need to go from buster - bullseye to bookworm anyway.

    Read the Release Notes for Bullseye to pick up on any changes.

    Do note also that Bookworm is currently supported: Bullseye security support ends round July 31st this year as Bullseye will move to LTS.

    You might want to repeat the upgrade process in a couple of months

    Yes, Andy, you are correct. See: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases#Production_Releases

    But i cannot endorse on bookworm without finding alternatives viable to
    my handicap. Does that mean, i am back to square one?
    Currently, i am 6 years behind (still on debian 10), because i was not willing to lose functionality i am used to. BTW: the GNOME team did that
    to me repeatedly, which makes me quite unhappy. But i am not familiar
    with the other desktops, cannot estimate the difficulties associated
    with their usage.

    You've mentioned that you want programmable hot corners and a
    pop-up menu, and in another thread, that you like to write your
    own scripts.

    Here is an X11-specific but not DE-specific tool to run hot
    corners; it is written in bash and is eminently hackable:

    https://github.com/okitavera/cornora/

    The dependencies are packaged in Debian, so it's just one
    script.

    And here is an X11-specific but not DE-specific tool to run
    menus (and several other similar things), which is easily
    customizable through a config file:

    apt install rofi

    Finally, here is an X11-specific but not DE-specific tool to
    grab a keyboard button or combination and do something else with
    it, including running an application:

    apt install xbindkeys

    All of these work in Debian 10, 11 and 12, and I see no reason
    that they should stop working in 13. If you accustom yourself to
    using them now, you can change desktop environments and upgrade
    to current stable without fear of losing your desired workflow.

    Hope that helps.

    -dsr-

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to DdB on Sat Jun 1 14:20:01 2024
    DdB wrote:
    ...
    But i cannot endorse on bookworm without finding alternatives viable to
    my handicap. Does that mean, i am back to square one?
    Currently, i am 6 years behind (still on debian 10), because i was not willing to lose functionality i am used to. BTW: the GNOME team did that
    to me repeatedly, which makes me quite unhappy. But i am not familiar
    with the other desktops, cannot estimate the difficulties associated
    with their usage.

    many years ago running Debian testing i was happy with a
    Gnome setup, menus and taskbars. then they changed it too
    much and it made too many assumptions about how i liked to
    do things and i went through the effort of getting KDE
    setup how i liked it and then they too changed it too much
    so i found MATE and have stuck with that since then.

    i've not had to try Cinnamon or other desktops, but i
    also have not been needing more extreme things for a handicap
    other than having fonts pretty large (which is a problem in
    some websites or programs as some don't make it easy to
    scroll a whole dialog until you find the key combination to
    grab it and move it up or down).


    songbird

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