• please, no. Re: CoC policy for package contents

    From Holger Levsen@21:1/5 to Tiago Bortoletto Vaz on Tue Jul 22 13:00:01 2025
    On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 09:30:38PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
    I'm feeling somewhat uneasy, and/because I think we have a logical problem here:
    - The CoC is about interaction between people;
    - what we are discussiong right now is accaptable contents of packages (messages, texts).

    That's categorically different; I can't be respectful, assume good faith, be
    collaborative, be concise, be open, etc. against a text (as I can be about other people's behaviour).

    I see the point in this topic about creating rules about what texts we want and don't want to have in Debian. But I strongly think that framing this as "application of the Debian CoC for packages" is a logical dead end. - If we want this, we need to create some new "What language is acceptable in Debian" rules.
    That's my understanding as well. As much as I appreciate Wouter's
    efforts on this, I'm having trouble to imagine an explicitly link
    between the Debian CoC and such set of rules in practical terms.

    Also, it seems to me that we're talking about an issue that isn't a
    recurrent problem in the project, so it perhaps doesn't really need new rules, a GR or another long thread in -vote.

    +1 to everything quoted above.

    Honest question: in ~30 years, how many packages have been removed from
    our archive due to offensive content? 4? 5? How many of the removal
    requests turned into big drama?

    5 and 3 I think.


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    cheers,
    Holger

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