Hey,

Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <[email protected]> wrote on 19/03/2025 at 20:46:12+0100:

Hi,

Em 19/03/2025 08:15, Andreas Tille escreveu:

I completely understand what you mean. In an ideal world, we could
bring
all relevant people together in one room, make decisions, and implement
them seamlessly. If you're asking whether I have an idea on how to get
closer to that ideal within a volunteer project-honestly, I don't.
However, I'm very open to discussing potential approaches.

This year, with DebConf taking place in France, I believe we will have
an opportunity to check If DDs leaving in Europe and North America
have preference to join the conference in Western Europe over South
Africa, Taiwan, Brasil, Kosovo, India and South Korea.

Although I have heard some people complaining about the lack of trains
to Brest lol

Best regards,

There might be a financial challenge for some, as the budget is a bit
more tighten than for previous years (France is expensive, and we lack
some sponsors to have the budget we would need for a "perfect
conference", this is to be read in light of the general financial
contraction the project has endured recently, and that might or might
not become a preoccupation in the coming years if we fail to bring more sponsors.

This challenge might alter a bit the polls you'd probably like to make
out from attendance.

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PEB

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Em 20 de março de 2025 09:41:58 GMT-03:00, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <[email protected]> escreveu:

Hi

Em 19/03/2025 20:05, Pierre-Elliott Bécue escreveu:

Hey,

Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <[email protected]> wrote on 19/03/2025 at 20:46:12+0100:

Hi,

Em 19/03/2025 08:15, Andreas Tille escreveu:

I completely understand what you mean. In an ideal world, we could
bring
all relevant people together in one room, make decisions, and implement >>>> them seamlessly. If you're asking whether I have an idea on how to get >>>> closer to that ideal within a volunteer project-honestly, I don't.
However, I'm very open to discussing potential approaches.

just a note: s/leaving/living

There might be a financial challenge for some, as the budget is a bit
more tighten than for previous years (France is expensive, and we lack
some sponsors to have the budget we would need for a "perfect
conference", this is to be read in light of the general financial
contraction the project has endured recently, and that might or might
not become a preoccupation in the coming years if we fail to bring more
sponsors.

Maybe It's time to rethink DebConf expenses. If the incoming is short, it's necessary to cut expenses. I think Gunnar usually says nothing is written on stone, so It's possible, for instance, to cut the conference dinner, organize a shorter DebCamp, cut

the swag, and so on.


FTR, we are cutting swag budget this year so don't expect anything fabcy, and we are being conservative in some other expenses such as conference dinner. But personally, would like to have a popular DebCamp. Hacking time spent with other fellows is as
valuable as DebConf time.

I'm not talking specific about France, but I feell there is some kind of thought "the debconf I'm organizing can't be smaller/simplier/modestier than the previous debconfs".

IMHO DebConf should produce profit to Debian.

DebConf produces profit, that we don't measure in dollars :-)

Best regards,

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On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 07:26:27PM -0300, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:

DebConf produces profit, that we don't measure in dollars :-)

<3

very much so! & well said. same for DebCamp, MiniDebConfs & BSPs.


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Holger

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