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  • Debian 11.1.0 DVD 2,3,4,5 ?

    From Christoph Prokop@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 16:40:02 2021
    Hi there,

    i just downloaded DVD1 for 11.1.0 but it seems DVD 2,3,... are missing here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
    Is it on purpose only DVD1?

    This Site lists 1-5 (but i am not sure who provides theses isos):
    Is this even an official mirror? http://debian-cd.inspire.net.nz/current/amd64/iso-dvd/

    Greetings and thanks for all your efforts!

    Chris

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Christoph Prokop on Thu Oct 21 17:40:02 2021
    On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 04:16:21PM +0200, Christoph Prokop wrote:
    Hi there,

    i just downloaded DVD1 for 11.1.0 but it seems DVD 2,3,... are missing here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
    Is it on purpose only DVD1?

    This Site lists 1-5 (but i am not sure who provides theses isos):
    Is this even an official mirror? http://debian-cd.inspire.net.nz/current/amd64/iso-dvd/

    Greetings and thanks for all your efforts!

    Chris


    From Debian 11.0 onwards, we're ornly providing one DVD as standard.
    It is a law of diminishing returns: we found fewer and fewer people
    were downloading all three and yet people were continuing to get confused
    by which DVD was bootablew and which was necessary

    If you want to get DVD2 and DVD3 particularly, then you can use
    jigdo-lite and .jigdo files. Most people don't in fact need them
    because DVD1 will install sufficient / they're carrying out an
    install while connected to the Internet anyway.

    If you need more than one DVD's worth, another possibility is to use
    the 16G file to put onto a USB stick / the Blu-Ray disk images which are
    also bootable from USB stick.

    It's possible that the admin of the mirror you cite just made the DVD
    files up for convenience of their users.

    cdimage.debian.org is the canonical source for CD / DVD and other Debian
    media so check there first for changes, as you have done in this instance.

    With every good wish, as ever,

    Andy Cater

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  • From Thomas Schmitt@21:1/5 to Christoph Prokop on Thu Oct 21 17:40:02 2021
    Hi,

    Christoph Prokop wrote:
    Is it on purpose only DVD1?

    Yep. Stated by Andrew M.A. Cater in
    https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/[email protected]

    [...] the number of DVDs was [...] reduced for Debian 11. Whereas
    for Buster we made the first three .iso images, for Bullseye there is one: the others can be built using jigdo.

    That would be

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/

    .jigdo and .template files are to be used as described in
    https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how

    I wrote a wiki article how to get to a Live Debian, install jigdo-lite
    on it for the time it is running, and use it to download one or more
    Jigdo ISOs:
    https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive
    Maybe you find inspiration in there if riddles arise ...


    This Site lists 1-5 (but i am not sure who provides theses isos):
    Is this even an official mirror? http://debian-cd.inspire.net.nz/current/amd64/iso-dvd/

    Hard to say. Maybe they are just nice and did the jigdo work for you.

    If you can afford the bandwidth to download the ISOs and to discard them
    if they are bad, then check the downloaded ISOs by the checksums in
    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA256SUMS and/or
    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA512SUMS
    I.e. _not_ by the checksums on debian-cd.inspire.net.nz .

    A cautiously mistrusting downloader will want to verify the checksum
    files by their .sig files and a run of gpg --verify.


    Have a nice day :)

    Thomas

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  • From Nicholas Geovanis@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Oct 21 22:10:02 2021
    On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:36 AM Thomas Schmitt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi,

    Christoph Prokop wrote:
    Is it on purpose only DVD1?

    Yep. Stated by Andrew M.A. Cater in
    https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/[email protected]

    [...] the number of DVDs was [...] reduced for Debian 11. Whereas
    for Buster we made the first three .iso images, for Bullseye there is
    one:
    the others can be built using jigdo.

    That would be

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/

    .jigdo and .template files are to be used as described in
    https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how

    I wrote a wiki article how to get to a Live Debian, install jigdo-lite
    on it for the time it is running, and use it to download one or more
    Jigdo ISOs:
    https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive
    Maybe you find inspiration in there if riddles arise ...


    This Site lists 1-5 (but i am not sure who provides theses isos):
    Is this even an official mirror? http://debian-cd.inspire.net.nz/current/amd64/iso-dvd/

    Hard to say. Maybe they are just nice and did the jigdo work for you.

    If you can afford the bandwidth to download the ISOs and to discard them
    if they are bad, then check the downloaded ISOs by the checksums in
    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA256SUMS and/or <https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA256SUMSand/or>
    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA512SUMS I.e. _not_ by the checksums on debian-cd.inspire.net.nz .


    My advice, verify the checksums _without fail_, especially jigdo.
    No matter how good you believe your internet service to be, nor how much
    excess capacity your platform has.



    A cautiously mistrusting downloader will want to verify the checksum
    files by their .sig files and a run of gpg --verify.


    Have a nice day :)

    Thomas



    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:36 AM Thomas Schmitt &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-
    left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>

    Christoph Prokop wrote:<br>
    &gt; Is it on purpose only DVD1?<br>

    Yep. Stated by Andrew M.A. Cater in<br>
      <a href="https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/[email protected]" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/[email protected]</a><br>

    &gt; &gt; [...] the number of DVDs was [...] reduced for Debian 11. Whereas<br> &gt; &gt; for Buster we made the first three .iso images, for Bullseye there is one:<br>
    &gt; &gt; the others can be built using jigdo.<br>

    That would be<br>

      <a href="https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/</a><br>

    .jigdo and .template files are to be used as described in<br>
      <a href="https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how</a><br>

    I wrote a wiki article how to get to a Live Debian, install jigdo-lite<br>
    on it for the time it is running, and use it to download one or more<br>
    Jigdo ISOs:<br>
      <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive</a><br>
    Maybe you find inspiration in there if riddles arise ...<br>


    &gt; This Site lists 1-5 (but i am not sure who provides theses isos):<br>
    &gt; Is this even an official mirror?<br>
    &gt; <a href="http://debian-cd.inspire.net.nz/current/amd64/iso-dvd/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://debian-cd.inspire.net.nz/current/amd64/iso-dvd/</a><br>

    Hard to say. Maybe they are just nice and did the jigdo work for you.<br>

    If you can afford the bandwidth to download the ISOs and to discard them<br>
    if they are bad, then check the downloaded ISOs by the checksums in<br>
      <a href="https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA256SUMSand/or" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA256SUMS<br>
    and/or</a><br>
      <a href="https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA512SUMS" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/SHA512SUMS</a><br>
    I.e. _not_ by the checksums on <a href="http://debian-cd.inspire.net.nz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">debian-cd.inspire.net.nz</a> .<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My advice, verify the checksums _without fail_, especially jigdo.</div><div>No
    matter how good you believe your internet service to be, nor how much excess capacity your platform has.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

    A cautiously mistrusting downloader will want to verify the checksum<br>
    files by their .sig files and a run of gpg --verify.<br>


    Have a nice day :)<br>

    Thomas<br>

    </blockquote></div></div>

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  • From Christoph Prokop@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 23:00:01 2021
    Hi Nicholas,


    My advice, verify the checksums _without fail_, especially jigdo.
    No matter how good you believe your internet service to be, nor how much excess capacity your platform has.

    will do! :)
    Thanks!

    Greetings
    Chris

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  • From Nicholas Geovanis@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Oct 21 23:50:02 2021
    On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:39 PM Christoph Prokop < [email protected]> wrote:

    Hi Nicholas,


    My advice, verify the checksums _without fail_, especially jigdo.
    No matter how good you believe your internet service to be, nor how much
    excess capacity your platform has.

    will do! :)
    Thanks!


    You're welcome.
    I've seen checksum failures due to overloaded, overstressed OSs.
    I've seen checksum failures due to faulty RAM.
    When you're check summing billions of bytes....
    ....you forget how big a billion is :-)

    Greetings
    Chris


    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:39 PM Christoph Prokop &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Nicholas,<br>


    &gt; My advice, verify the checksums _without fail_, especially jigdo.<br>
    &gt; No matter how good you believe your internet service to be, nor how much excess capacity your platform has.<br>

    will do! :)<br>
    Thanks!<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You&#39;re welcome.</div><div>I&#39;ve seen checksum failures due to overloaded, overstressed OSs.</div><div>I&#39;ve seen checksum failures due to faulty RAM.</div><div>When you&#39;re check summing billions
    of bytes.... </div><div>....you forget how big a billion is :-)</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
    Greetings<br>
    Chris<br>
    </blockquote></div></div>

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