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  • mentors.d.n weirdness when uploading for multiple suites

    From Sven Hartge@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 26 14:50:01 2021
    Hello .*,

    I noticed a little weirdness when uploading a package for multiple
    suites, in my case for "bullseye-backports" and
    "buster-backports-sloppy".

    Reference is https://mentors.debian.net/package/radsecproxy/

    I uploaded version 1.9.0-1~bpo10+1 first and then 1.9.0-1~bpo11+1
    second.

    The latter seems to have superseded the first, with the first still
    being in the interface but somehow only "half". For example the URL to
    the DSC does not work and the URL in the RFS template is only "https://mentors.debian.netNone".

    Simple fix is of course to just delete and reupload 1.9.0-1~bpo10+1 but
    I think I happen to stumble upon an edge-case bug in the mentors backend
    here.

    Grüße,
    Sven.

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  • From Baptiste Beauplat@21:1/5 to Sven Hartge on Thu Aug 26 22:30:01 2021
    Hi Sven,

    On 2021/08/26 02:41 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
    I noticed a little weirdness when uploading a package for multiple
    suites, in my case for "bullseye-backports" and
    "buster-backports-sloppy".

    Reference is https://mentors.debian.net/package/radsecproxy/

    I uploaded version 1.9.0-1~bpo10+1 first and then 1.9.0-1~bpo11+1
    second.

    The latter seems to have superseded the first, with the first still
    being in the interface but somehow only "half". For example the URL to
    the DSC does not work and the URL in the RFS template is only "https://mentors.debian.netNone".

    Simple fix is of course to just delete and reupload 1.9.0-1~bpo10+1 but
    I think I happen to stumble upon an edge-case bug in the mentors backend here.

    That's definitively a bug cause by a corner case in mentors. Here is the explanation:

    Mentors differs from Debian official archive in which it allow
    multiple upload of the same version+distribution, allowing people to
    overwrite they upload until they are satisfied with it.

    While mentors keeps track of each upload, the source repository simply
    cannot store multiple version of the same file. Therefore before
    installing the uploaded files to the repository any previous version of
    a file will be uninstalled from it.

    In theory, this shouldn't prevent people from retrieving sources package
    from the repository of the same package, for two different
    distributions and versions. For instance, uploading tmux/2.0-1 for
    unstable and tmux/1.9-1+deb11u1 (let's say for a security fix) for
    stable. Both live in different distributions, without any files
    overlapping and the repository is happy to serve both.

    Your use case is specific in which there is a overlap of the orig.tar,
    which both distributions use. Because of that, and even if the
    distribution differs and the file has the same checksum, the repository detected a new upload of the orig.tar and removed the previous upload
    that was using it.

    That's why the dsc of the first upload disappeared and the link doesn't
    show up.

    I'm not sure we can come up with a sound technical solution for this
    issue, given that the repository replacing uploads is an actual feature.
    I'll dig up the topic a little more to see if we can come up with
    something.

    I'll keep you posted.

    --
    Baptiste Beauplat - lyknode

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  • From Baptiste Beauplat@21:1/5 to Baptiste Beauplat on Sun Aug 29 16:50:01 2021
    Hi Sven,

    On 2021/08/26 10:15 PM, Baptiste Beauplat wrote:
    On 2021/08/26 02:41 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
    I noticed a little weirdness when uploading a package for multiple
    suites, in my case for "bullseye-backports" and
    "buster-backports-sloppy".

    That should be fixed now. We changed the behavior of the repository so
    files can be shared between uploads as long as they have the same
    content (checksum).

    You can upload two version sharing the same orig and it will work fine.

    Note that, shared files have the same restriction as other files. If the content changes, all uploads using the previous version of that file
    will be removed from the repository to keep consistency. The dsc link
    for removed repository files should not appear in the package page.

    Best,

    --
    Baptiste Beauplat - lyknode

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  • From Sven Hartge@21:1/5 to Baptiste Beauplat on Sun Aug 29 16:50:01 2021
    On 29.08.21 16:40, Baptiste Beauplat wrote:
    On 2021/08/26 10:15 PM, Baptiste Beauplat wrote:
    On 2021/08/26 02:41 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:

    I noticed a little weirdness when uploading a package for multiple
    suites, in my case for "bullseye-backports" and
    "buster-backports-sloppy".

    That should be fixed now. We changed the behavior of the repository so
    files can be shared between uploads as long as they have the same
    content (checksum).

    You can upload two version sharing the same orig and it will work fine.

    Note that, shared files have the same restriction as other files. If the content changes, all uploads using the previous version of that file
    will be removed from the repository to keep consistency. The dsc link
    for removed repository files should not appear in the package page.

    Very nice, thank you.

    That will make it substantially more easy to upload backports or
    security updates if they share the same upstream version without needing
    to do them in a piecemeal fashion.

    Grüße,
    Sven.

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