• GeForce nvidia driver license for commerical use?

    From Roberto A. Foglietta@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 3 20:00:01 2022
    Hi all,

    reading this link here below, it seems that compilation and repackaging
    the content is prohibited by their license. What's your opinion on this?

    https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/10082/geforce-nvidia-driver-license-for-commerical-use

    In fact, up today (515.76) the .run archive that contains the driver and
    the CUDA libraries is licenced in a way for which two essential operations
    are not permitted:

    §2.1.2 does not allow the compilation essential for deliver a binry driver §2.1.3 does not allow to repackage the .run content in many .deb packages

    The license could be found inside the .run archive downloadable from this
    url

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix

    Best regards, R-

    <div dir="ltr">Hi all,<br><br> reading this link here below, it seems that compilation and repackaging the content is prohibited by their license. What&#39;s your opinion on this?<br><br><a href="https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/10082/
    geforce-nvidia-driver-license-for-commerical-use">https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/10082/geforce-nvidia-driver-license-for-commerical-use</a><br><br>In fact, up today (515.76) the .run archive that contains the driver and the CUDA libraries
    is licenced in a way for which two essential operations are not permitted:<br><br>§2.1.2 does not allow the compilation essential for deliver a binry driver<br>§2.1.3 does not allow to repackage the .run content in many .deb packages<br><br>The license
    could be found inside the .run archive downloadable from this url<br><br><a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix">https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix</a><br><div><br></div><div>Best regards, R-</div></div>

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  • From Simon McVittie@21:1/5 to Roberto A. Foglietta on Mon Oct 3 20:50:01 2022
    On Mon, 03 Oct 2022 at 19:52:23 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
    �reading this link here below, it seems that compilation and repackaging the content is prohibited by their license. What's your opinion on this?

    Please note that the Debian maintainers of nvidia-graphics-drivers have received special permission from Nvidia beyond what is allowed by the
    license in the .run archive. Please see https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/copyright-510.85.02-2
    (or equivalent for other versions) for details.

    If you plan to repackage this driver outside Debian or distribute it commercially, you will need to talk to Nvidia directly, or obtain your
    own legal advice.

    smcv

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  • From Simon McVittie@21:1/5 to Roberto A. Foglietta on Mon Oct 3 22:00:01 2022
    On Mon, 03 Oct 2022 at 21:12:50 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
    Are you referring to the special permission given by e-mail by Donald Randall in 2003?

    I think you're misreading the copyright file. Randall Donald is a Debian contributor who asked Nvidia for permission to redistribute their driver,
    and got a reply (which is quoted in the copyright file) from someone
    named Andy.

    smcv

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  • From Roberto A. Foglietta@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 3 21:20:01 2022
    Il giorno lun 3 ott 2022 alle ore 20:42 Simon McVittie <[email protected]> ha scritto:

    On Mon, 03 Oct 2022 at 19:52:23 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
    reading this link here below, it seems that compilation and repackaging
    the
    content is prohibited by their license. What's your opinion on this?

    Please note that the Debian maintainers of nvidia-graphics-drivers have received special permission from Nvidia beyond what is allowed by the
    license in the .run archive. Please see

    https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/copyright-510.85.02-2
    (or equivalent for other versions) for details.

    If you plan to repackage this driver outside Debian or distribute it commercially, you will need to talk to Nvidia directly, or obtain your
    own legal advice.


    Thank you Simon for the prompt reply.

    Are you referring to the special permission given by e-mail by Donald
    Randall in 2003?

    Randall Donald
    http://www.khensu.org
    [email protected]
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/randalldonald/

    On which Linkedin profile is reported a volunteer activity as external for NVIDIA

    Volunteering Debian
    Developer and Archive MaintainerDeveloper and Archive Maintainer
    Jan 2001 - Jan 2010 · 9 yrs 2 mosJan 2001 - Jan 2010 · 9 yrs 2 mos
    Science and Technology
    Debian developer most notably responsible for leading the NVIDIA packaging team.
    2001 - 2010

    Please, could you explain to me how a company external voluntary could have delivered a legally binding permission?

    Best regards, R-

    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Il giorno lun 3 ott 2022 alle ore 20:42 Simon McVittie &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:
    0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 03 Oct 2022 at 19:52:23 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:<br>
    &gt;  reading this link here below, it seems that compilation and repackaging the<br>
    &gt; content is prohibited by their license. What&#39;s your opinion on this?<br>

    Please note that the Debian maintainers of nvidia-graphics-drivers have<br> received special permission from Nvidia beyond what is allowed by the<br> license in the .run archive. Please see<br>
    <a href="https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/copyright-510.85.02-2" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/copyright-510.85.02-2</a><br>
    (or equivalent for other versions) for details.<br>

    If you plan to repackage this driver outside Debian or distribute it<br> commercially, you will need to talk to Nvidia directly, or obtain your<br>
    own legal advice.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thank you Simon for the prompt reply. </div><div><br></div>Are you referring to the special permission given by e-mail by Donald Randall in 2003?<br><br>Randall Donald<br><a href="http://www.khensu.
    org" target="_blank">http://www.khensu.org</a> <br><a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a><br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/randalldonald/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/randalldonald/</a></div><div
    class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On which Linkedin profile is reported a volunteer activity as external for NVIDIA</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Volunteering Debian<br>Developer and Archive
    MaintainerDeveloper and Archive Maintainer<br>Jan 2001 - Jan 2010 · 9 yrs 2 mosJan 2001 - Jan 2010 · 9 yrs 2 mos<br>Science and Technology<br>Debian developer most notably responsible for leading the NVIDIA packaging team. <br>2001 - 2010<br></div><div
    class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Please, could you explain to me how a company external voluntary could have delivered a legally binding permission?</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Best regards, R-</
    <div class="gmail_quote"><br><div><br></div></div></div>

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  • From Roberto A. Foglietta@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 3 22:20:01 2022
    Il giorno lun 3 ott 2022 alle ore 21:50 Simon McVittie <[email protected]> ha scritto:

    On Mon, 03 Oct 2022 at 21:12:50 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
    Are you referring to the special permission given by e-mail by Donald
    Randall
    in 2003?

    I think you're misreading the copyright file. Randall Donald is a Debian contributor who asked Nvidia for permission to redistribute their driver,
    and got a reply (which is quoted in the copyright file) from someone
    named Andy.


    Thanks Simon for this clarification but it is not enough yet and I will
    quickly explain to you why.

    Could you bring to our attention the original e-mail or the name/e-mail
    address of Andy working for nVidia, please?

    Because the e-mail address [email protected] does not exist anymore and he does not reply by Linkedin.

    I personally spoke with a USA nVidia manager about licensing in a video conference call and he assured me that the only way to legally receive the nVidia software is downloading from their website.

    Moreover, he was acknowledged that the aim was to use Debian. It might
    happen that everybody in the two teams was wrong but why not suggest to
    rely directly on Debian, then? It would have been great.

    Best, R-

    P.S.: forget the other email without the reply to the m-list, thanks.

    <div dir="ltr">Il giorno lun 3 ott 2022 alle ore 21:50 Simon McVittie &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Mon, 03 Oct 2022 at 21:12:50 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Are you
    referring to the special permission given by e-mail by Donald Randall<br>&gt; &gt; in 2003?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I think you&#39;re misreading the copyright file. Randall Donald is a Debian<br>&gt; contributor who asked Nvidia for permission to redistribute
    their driver,<br>&gt; and got a reply (which is quoted in the copyright file) from someone<br>&gt; named Andy.<br>&gt;<div><br></div><div>Thanks Simon for this clarification but it is not enough yet and I will quickly explain to you why.<div><br></div><
    Could you bring to our attention the original e-mail or the name/e-mail address of Andy working for nVidia, please? </div><div> </div><div>Because the e-mail address <a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a> does
    not exist anymore and he does not reply by Linkedin.<div><br><div>I personally spoke with a USA nVidia manager about licensing in a video conference call and he assured me that the only way to legally receive the nVidia software is downloading from their
    website.</div><div><br></div><div>Moreover, he was acknowledged that the aim was to use Debian. It might happen that everybody in the two teams was wrong but why not suggest to rely directly on Debian, then? It would have been great.</div><div><br></div>
    <div>Best, R-</div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div>P.S.: forget the other email without the reply to the m-list, thanks.</div></div>

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