• Install problem

    From Mike Hosken@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 07:10:01 2023
    Hi everyone,

    I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert mode
    causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel parameters.

    I’m using keyboard and monitor to install not the serial console.

    Any help would be appreciated to get this system up and running.

    Mike Hosken
    linux.purple-cat.net

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  • From Frank Scheiner@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 08:20:01 2023
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  • From John Paul Adrian Glaubitz@21:1/5 to Mike Hosken on Sat Jul 29 09:50:02 2023
    Hello Mike!

    On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 16:40 +1200, Mike Hosken wrote:
    I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run into
    some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub and
    choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert
    mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
    trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel parameters.

    Please provide us with links to the exact image that you tested. Some architectures are
    broken on certain images and "latest" is ambiguous in this context as some users refer
    to the snapshot folder while others point to the release version folders (although, there
    aren't releases in Debian Ports!).

    Also, boot the kernel in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the GRUB command line) and
    post the kernel error message on the mailing list.

    Adrian

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    : :' : Debian Developer
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  • From Mike Hosken@21:1/5 to Mike Hosken on Sat Jul 29 10:20:01 2023
    Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else,

    I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately.

    I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with this kernel.

    I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64 and would it be possible
    to get an updated iso produced ?

    [ 0.000000] Linux version 6.1.0-9-itanium ([email protected]) (gcc-12 (Debian 12.2.0-12) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.40) #1 SMP Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08)
    [ 0.000000] efi: EFI v2.00 by HP
    [ 0.000000] efi: SALsystab=0x3ee7a000 ACPI 2.0=0x3fde6000 ESI=0x3ee7b000 SMBIOS=0x3ee7c000 HCDP=0x3fde4000
    [ 12.165278] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs...
    [ 12.169274] Entered OS MCA handler. PSP=20010000fff21320 cpu=0 monarch=1
    [ 12.169274] 6All OS MCA slaves have reached rendezvous
    [ 12.169274] mlogbuf_finish: printing switched to urgent mode, MCA/INIT might be dodgy or fail.
    [ 12.169274] Delaying for 5 seconds...

    Thanks
    Mike Hosken

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Frank Scheiner [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2023 6:13 pm
    To: Mike Hosken; [email protected]
    Subject: Re: Install problem

    Hi Mike,

    On 29.07.23 06:40, Mike Hosken wrote:
    Hi everyone,

    I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and
    have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t
    boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then
    the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue.
    Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and
    managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
    trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be
    kernel parameters.

    I have always blacklisted the "radeon" module for my rx2660s:

    ```
    modprobe.blacklist=radeon
    ```

    ...but that could require to use it over iLO MP exclusively, which is
    not too bad or too hard to do (via both telnet and serial). IIRC you
    should get the default configuration by pushing the button at the rear
    for a longer time (see e.g. [1] for details about its functionality) and
    then login over serial (9600 bps, 8n1) with "Admin:Admin". After
    configuring telnet access (or maybe it is configured per default already
    and uses DHCP) you can control it via the iLO MP network port, too.

    E.g. to power on the machine enter command menu (or mode?) via "cm",
    then enter `ps -on -nc`. Hit "Ctrl+B" to return to the main menu and
    enter "co" to get to the system console. "Ctrl+B" also returns from the
    system console, if you need to issue a hard reset (in command menu enter
    `rs -nc`) for example.

    My first rx2660 also still has:

    ```
    hardened_usercopy=off
    ```

    ...in its kernel commandline, but I believe this is no longer necessary
    as it is deactivated in the Debian version of the Linux kernel for ia64 IIC.

    HTH.
    Cheers,
    Frank

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  • From Mike Hosken@21:1/5 to Mike Hosken on Sat Jul 29 10:40:01 2023
    Hi Adrian,

    It Was this one.

    https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/ia64/debian-12.0.0-ia64-NETINST-1.iso

    Mike
    -----Original Message-----
    From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2023 7:42 pm
    To: Mike Hosken
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: Install problem

    Hello Mike!

    On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 16:40 +1200, Mike Hosken wrote:
    I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run into
    some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub and
    choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert
    mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
    trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel parameters.

    Please provide us with links to the exact image that you tested. Some architectures are
    broken on certain images and "latest" is ambiguous in this context as some users refer
    to the snapshot folder while others point to the release version folders (although, there
    aren't releases in Debian Ports!).

    Also, boot the kernel in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the GRUB command line) and
    post the kernel error message on the mailing list.

    Adrian

    --
    .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
    : :' : Debian Developer
    `. `' Physicist
    `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913

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  • From Frank Scheiner@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 22:40:02 2023
    Hi again,

    just some other thing that came to my mind right now:

    Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer
    times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age
    faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2
    and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same
    problem.

    [1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU
    revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have
    one of those in yours already.

    Cheers,
    Frank

    [1]: https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911

    [2]: https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3

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  • From Frank Scheiner@21:1/5 to Mike Hosken on Sat Jul 29 22:40:01 2023
    Hi Mike,

    On 29.07.23 10:01, Mike Hosken wrote:
    Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else,

    I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately.

    I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes
    and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I
    managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with
    this kernel.

    I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did
    notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on
    the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64

    It is fixed with 6.3.0-0 (6.3.2 to be exact, see [this thread] for details).

    [this thread]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ia64/2023/05/msg00010.html

    and would it be possible
    to get an updated iso produced ?

    Just to be sure:

    You managed to get a working installation with an older than the latest installer ISO?

    Would it then be possible to start anew and than just install a newer
    kernel image from snapshot.debian.org before actually upgrading the
    remaining OS, e.g. this one:

    https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.3.0-2-mckinley_6.3.11-1_ia64.deb

    ...or maybe even this one:

    https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.4.0-0-mckinley_6.4.1-1~exp1_ia64.deb

    Cheers,
    Frank

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  • From Frank Scheiner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 1 11:50:01 2023
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  • From Frank Scheiner@21:1/5 to Pedro Miguel Justo on Fri Aug 11 16:00:01 2023
    On 07.08.23 00:39, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote:
    [...]
    I physically ejected the faulty PSU and the machine has been up for many
    days now.

    Well, now one PSU in my first rx2660 is playing dead, too. But the
    system doesn't yet refuse to start. I removed it anyhow and replaced it
    with one PSU from my DL385 G5 - same part number and OEM model for PSU.

    Hence I assume you can put DL385 G5 (and also G2) PSUs on your watch
    list, too. Though from checking on Ebay, it might be cheaper to just buy
    a whole system (DL380 G5, DL385 G2/G5) with two PSUs instead of just the PSU(s).

    The problem is: you can't put your nose on the PSUs prior to buying them
    to sniff if they're "toasty" or "fresh" (which is true for both options, though).

    Cheers,
    Frank

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