• release-notes bug triage

    From Richard Lewis@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 19:10:04 2024
    Can i ask what is the policy for old bugs aganist release-notes?

    Currently the page has several that relate to bookworm (and some
    before): should anything relating to bookworm or earlier be closed? is
    it still desirable/possible to amend the bookworm release-notes?


    these bugs look like valid things which could have been in bookworm release-notes:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1037144
    - Please add bug #1037142 in the "5.4 Known severe bugs" section for bookworm the Debian
    - that bug is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1037142 which is now closed
    - is some issue specific to a particular graphics card
    - if bookworm wasnt released it would be worth doing

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1038151
    - document rename of the "ssh" group to "_ssh" in bookworm as people might have relied on 'ssh'
    eg with 'AllowGroups to "root ssh"'
    - if bookworm wasnt released it would be worth doing


    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1037116
    - says that debian-edu bookworm was not ready -- this is, i assume, valid,
    but anyone affected has presumably worked close?
    - if bookworm wasnt released it would be worth doing


    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1037203
    - aide is broken by the upgrade. The proposed text says what the workaround is - if bookworm wasnt released it would be worth doing


    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1037430
    - exim upgrade now fails if tainted data is used
    - if bookworm wasnt released it would be worth doing


    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1055027
    - links to https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/-/merge_requests/201 - if bookworm wasnt released it would be worth doing



    And these ones i think could be closed as "too late"/too minor/other reasons:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1030119 is tagged trixie, but is about the annoying
    'pam_env(sshd:session): deprecated reading of user environment enabled' messages which you get in bookworm.
    However the ssh maintainer has fixed this for trixie: no need to document that in trixie, so suggest closing this?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012174 -- is about mentioning https in apt lines: I think this is fixed, so close?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1035065
    - states that "the sssd cache becomes invalid on the upgrade to Bookworm due to a new format",
    - no new info provided on what this means since request in May 2023
    - suggest closing as it doenst seem to have been an issue in practice and there is nothing actionable in it


    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1036876
    - states that "debian was previously able to boot from lvm volume groups
    that were not complete while running in the initramfs and that bookworm
    will no longer support this"
    - porbably valid, but not a usual setup -- close?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1037121
    - The salt-stack was removed from bookworm. there is proposed text, and i assume valid, but
    im not sure it's high-profile enough to warrent inclusion now?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1050833
    - changes to network naming: it is not clear to me if this was actually a change in bookworm
    or an old change. i think this is the user not reading previous release-notes correctly - close?


    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1070258
    - user did not follow the instrcutions to remove non-debian software. close?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=987068
    - says cgroup2 support is incomplete for containers in bullseye.
    - no response from submitter since 2021. close?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=987069
    - another cgroup2-related thing from 2021. last message says it's too
    long for release-notes. close?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=991809
    - says new instalations of nis should follow a nis-howto document, but upgrades work
    - no response to "what do users upgrading need to know", seems out of scope for release-notes. close?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1036907
    - something to do with dash. unclear to me... doesnt seem to have been
    an issue. close?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=927679
    - is about docbook syntax. release-notes now use markdown. close?

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=930318
    - unclear - i think they are suggesting to rename i386 to "PC". i dont
    think that is actually any clearer, "PC" would have made sense in the 1990s,
    but i dont think people really use it any more. close?

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  • From Paul Gevers@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 21:30:01 2024
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  • From Richard Lewis@21:1/5 to Paul Gevers on Mon Dec 23 15:00:01 2024
    Paul Gevers <[email protected]> writes:

    Hi,

    On 22-12-2024 19:08, Richard Lewis wrote:
    Currently the page has several that relate to bookworm (and some
    before): should anything relating to bookworm or earlier be closed? is
    it still desirable/possible to amend the bookworm release-notes?

    bookworm release-notes can be updated until bookworm is no longer
    supported by the Release-Team and security support. So, only bugs only applicable for bullseye and before should be closed at this stage.

    OK, maybe ill look at some of these -- for the bookworm release-notes,
    does that mean a MR against the bookworm branch? (which is still in
    docbook format, i assume the support for building docbook is still
    there, --- or am i just confused...

    how do i view the different branches? (i cant get either to build
    locally)

    (Ill reply to individual bugs, but i seem to be a bit confused by the
    git repo at the moment)

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  • From Richard Lewis@21:1/5 to Richard Lewis on Mon Dec 23 15:50:01 2024
    Richard Lewis <[email protected]> writes:

    Paul Gevers <[email protected]> writes:

    Hi,

    On 22-12-2024 19:08, Richard Lewis wrote:
    Currently the page has several that relate to bookworm (and some
    before): should anything relating to bookworm or earlier be closed? is
    it still desirable/possible to amend the bookworm release-notes?

    bookworm release-notes can be updated until bookworm is no longer
    supported by the Release-Team and security support. So, only bugs only
    applicable for bullseye and before should be closed at this stage.

    OK, maybe ill look at some of these -- for the bookworm release-notes,
    does that mean a MR against the bookworm branch? (which is still in
    docbook format, i assume the support for building docbook is still
    there, --- or am i just confused...

    how do i view the different branches? (i cant get either to build
    locally)

    (Ill reply to individual bugs, but i seem to be a bit confused by the
    git repo at the moment)

    I worked it out:

    bookworm (docbook) is https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/
    trixie (rst) is https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/index.en.html

    Unfortunately https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/amd64/release-notes/ is a 404, i wonder if
    someone could make those pages redirect to the correct trixie pages?

    My remaining question is: will commits to https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/-/tree/bookworm?ref_type=heads
    still make it to the bookworm page?

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  • From Holger Wansing@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 23 17:20:01 2024
    Hi,



    Am 23. Dezember 2024 15:40:59 MEZ schrieb Richard Lewis:
    I worked it out:

    bookworm (docbook) is https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/
    trixie (rst) is https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/index.en.html

    This link is correct for trixie.

    Unfortunately https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/amd64/release-notes/ is a 404, i wonder if
    someone could make those pages redirect to the correct trixie pages?

    See above.
    Starting from trixie, there are no longer release-notes different
    per architecture.
    Only one 'generic' variant is build.
    Where did you find the above link to .../trixie/amd64/... ?

    My remaining question is: will commits to https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/-/tree/bookworm?ref_type=heads
    still make it to the bookworm page?

    Yes.


    Holger

    --
    Sent from /e/ OS on Fairphone3

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  • From Richard Lewis@21:1/5 to Holger Wansing on Mon Dec 23 17:50:01 2024
    On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 at 16:18, Holger Wansing <[email protected]> wrote:
    Am 23. Dezember 2024 15:40:59 MEZ schrieb Richard Lewis:

    Unfortunately https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/amd64/release-notes/ is a 404, i wonder if
    someone could make those pages redirect to the correct trixie pages?

    See above.
    Starting from trixie, there are no longer release-notes different
    per architecture.
    Only one 'generic' variant is build.
    Where did you find the above link to .../trixie/amd64/... ?

    i simply edited the bookworm to trixie and expected it to work.

    Unfortunately, when you search debian.org for release notes the first
    link is to wheezy

    https://search.debian.org/cgi-bin/omega?DB=en&P=release+notes


    (it seems to prefer odd numbered releases!)

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