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  • [draft] need your help on the AI-DFSG general resolution prepration

    From M. Zhou@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 2 14:10:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.project

    Hi all,

    I heard that people were looking for me during FOSDEM.

    I spent a couple of hours and finally get something draft-ish
    for the previously mentioned general resolution on the software
    freedom interpolation with respect to AI software.

    https://salsa.debian.org/lumin/gr-ai-dfsg
    (I turned the issues on. Feel free to open issues there)

    This is an early draft. Before really posting to -vote, I need your
    help on the following aspect:

    (1) do you know any important but missing reference materials?

    (2) are the options clear enough for vote? Considering lots of the readers may not be faimiliar with how AI is created. I tried to explain it, as well as
    the implication if some components are missing.

    (3) is there anything unclear or ambiguous in the text for backgrounds and options?

    (4) is there anything else that should be added to the text?

    (5) what is the actionable outcome of this generaal resolution?

    (6) is a neutral tone necessary for a proposal? I have a clear
    tendency throughout the texts.

    (7) I have not yet asked ftp-master on their opinion.


    According to https://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal ,
    there is a template https://www.debian.org/vote/sample_vote.template
    but I don't understand this XML dialect. How to use this XML file?

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  • From Holger Levsen@21:1/5 to M. Zhou on Mon Feb 3 16:50:02 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.project

    hi,

    about https://salsa.debian.org/lumin/gr-ai-dfsg/-/blob/main/README.txt

    On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 12:56:59AM -0500, M. Zhou wrote:
    (2) are the options clear enough for vote? Considering lots of the readers may
    not be faimiliar with how AI is created. I tried to explain it, as well as the implication if some components are missing.

    this explaination text is surely useful/well ment but also makes it somewhat hard
    to see where the GR text starts.

    (3) is there anything unclear or ambiguous in the text for backgrounds and options?
    (4) is there anything else that should be added to the text?
    (5) what is the actionable outcome of this generaal resolution?
    (6) is a neutral tone necessary for a proposal? I have a clear
    tendency throughout the texts.

    as I understand your text and the GR process, you presented two (or three) GR options in one, which is a bit unusual, so maybe it will help to clearly to split
    this in (3 files)

    a.) GR background, explainations about AI
    b.) GR option 1 (called "Proposal A" in your text currently.
    c.) GR option 2 (called "Proposal B" in your text currently.

    Your Proposal C is not needed because "further discussion" is always an option in our GRs.

    Also you don't need to be neutral, though of course you can and maybe you should
    try. But my point is: anyone else can also propose GR options with a more or less
    neutral tone, so you can definitly be enthusiastic about your proposal!


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    cheers,
    Holger

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