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  • Re: LibreOffice architecture support (was: Fwd: Plan to remove dead C++

    From John Paul Adrian Glaubitz@21:1/5 to Rene Engelhard on Tue Jan 10 19:50:01 2023
    (posting this to debian-devel@ since debian-ports@ cross-posts to too many lists)

    Hello Rene!

    On 1/10/23 19:25, Rene Engelhard wrote:
    (which are for many BD-Uninstallable since ages because it does not have Java (anymore), didn't do a long-ago transition, ...)

    They all have Java support except for hppa, see:

    https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openjdk-11&suite=sid https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openjdk-18&suite=sid

    The reason for being BD-Uninstallable is the lack of cruft in Debian Ports:

    https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html

    as a result of some packages FTBFS.

    So, it's more a Debian Ports problem than an architecture problem.

    Also, both alpha and ia64 are BD-Uninstallable because you don't want to drop clang from Build-Depends from these architectures for whatever reason despite these not having had a LLVM/clang port for several years:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=963109

    If clang could be dropped from Build-Depends for alpha and ia64, that would already
    help us move a little further.

    speak up at upstream or they will be gone. And without those bridges no architecture support for it.

    I will see what I can do.

    Thanks,
    Adrian

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  • From Rene Engelhard@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 20:00:02 2023
    Hi,

    Am 10.01.23 um 19:44 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:
    On 1/10/23 19:25, Rene Engelhard wrote:
    (which are for many BD-Uninstallable since ages because it does not
    have Java (anymore), didn't do a long-ago transition, ...)

    They all have Java support except for hppa, see:

    I was indeed aiming at hppa here.

    Misses libnumbertext and that one has a Java component and thus we get

    libnumbertext build-depends on:
    - default-jdk:hppa
    default-jdk depends on:
    - default-jre:hppa (= 2:1.5-72)
    default-jre depends on:
    - default-jre-headless:hppa (= 2:1.5-72)
    default-jre-headless depends on missing:
    - openjdk-5-jre-headless:hppa

    The reason for being BD-Uninstallable is the lack of cruft in Debian
    Ports:

    https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html

    as a result of some packages FTBFS.

    That is for sparc and m68k? (Where both the needed KDE packages are uninstallable)


    Regards,


    Rene

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  • From Helge Deller@21:1/5 to Rene Engelhard on Wed Jan 11 15:10:01 2023
    On 1/10/23 19:54, Rene Engelhard wrote:
    Hi,

    Am 10.01.23 um 19:44 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:
    On 1/10/23 19:25, Rene Engelhard wrote:
    (which are for many BD-Uninstallable since ages because it does not have Java (anymore), didn't do a long-ago transition, ...)

    They all have Java support except for hppa, see:

    I was indeed aiming at hppa here.

    Misses libnumbertext and that one has a Java component and thus we get

    libnumbertext build-depends on:
    - default-jdk:hppa
    default-jdk depends on:
    - default-jre:hppa (= 2:1.5-72)
    default-jre depends on:
    - default-jre-headless:hppa (= 2:1.5-72)
    default-jre-headless depends on missing:
    - openjdk-5-jre-headless:hppa

    Yes, sadly we don't have a working java right now on hppa, and it will
    probably take some more time to get one. At least I won't have time
    for it during the next few months.
    But it would be sad to loose those bindings...

    The reason for being BD-Uninstallable is the lack of cruft in Debian Ports: >>
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html

    as a result of some packages FTBFS.

    That is for sparc and m68k? (Where both the needed KDE packages are uninstallable)

    Adrian, as there seems to be various arches (and reasons) will you speak upstream?

    Helge

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  • From John Paul Adrian Glaubitz@21:1/5 to Helge Deller on Wed Jan 11 15:30:01 2023
    Hi Helge!

    On 1/11/23 15:03, Helge Deller wrote:
    Yes, sadly we don't have a working java right now on hppa, and it will probably take some more time to get one. At least I won't have time
    for it during the next few months.
    But it would be sad to loose those bindings...

    There are some efforts to bring back gcj if that helps:

    https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2023-January/609530.html

    The reason for being BD-Uninstallable is the lack of cruft in Debian Ports: >>>
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html

    as a result of some packages FTBFS.

    That is for sparc and m68k? (Where both the needed KDE packages are uninstallable)

    Adrian, as there seems to be various arches (and reasons) will you speak upstream?

    Yes, I have already replied upstream. I will follow up there tonight.

    One of the biggest problems for Debian Ports remains the lack of cruft as explained
    in my post to the debian-sparc mailing list above. This causes these long BD-Uninstallable
    queues.

    Adrian

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  • From Rene Engelhard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 19:20:01 2023
    Hi,

    Am 11.01.23 um 15:20 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:
    Hi Helge!

    On 1/11/23 15:03, Helge Deller wrote:
    Yes, sadly we don't have a working java right now on hppa, and it will
    probably take some more time to get one. At least I won't have time
    for it during the next few months.
    But it would be sad to loose those bindings...

    There are some efforts to bring back gcj if that helps:

    https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2023-January/609530.html

    https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=7fe8c0b852fa421fe52de99a7f59e45027139eed

    That would need  to be reinstated if that ever becomes a thing.


    Regards,


    Rene

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