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  • Getting in contact with the i386 porters

    From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 15 12:30:01 2022
    Hi,

    I have a problem with sudo, Bug #1004894. sudo from unstable seems to
    not work on an AMD Geode LX processor.

    Unfortunately, I don't have any i386 systems left, there don't seem to
    be any public i386 porterboxes other than 64bit boxes running 32bit
    chroots, and the i386 port traditionally doesn't have a port-specific
    mailing list. [email protected] was Cced two weeks ago without any
    reaction.

    How would I proceed from here? I suspect this to be a toolchain / buildd
    essue and feel myself being at a loss regarding this issue. Is the Geode
    LX supported by the i386 port in the first place?

    I see
    Kernel taint flags: TAINT_CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC
    in the logs, but also
    CONFIG_MGEODE_LX=y
    in Debian's i386 kernel.

    Please advise, thanks.

    Greetings
    Marc

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  • From Ansgar@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Tue Feb 15 13:50:01 2022
    On Tue, 2022-02-15 at 12:28 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
    Unfortunately, I don't have any i386 systems left, there don't seem
    to
    be any public i386 porterboxes other than 64bit boxes running 32bit
    chroots, and the i386 port traditionally doesn't have a port-specific
    mailing list. [email protected] was Cced two weeks ago without any
    reaction.

    The architecture requalification page for bookworm currently lists a
    single porter for i386[1]. Maybe contact him directly?

    It might also be a good idea for people interested in the i386 port to
    setup a port-specific mailing list.

    Or for such people to decide what the goal of the i386 port is: run
    current software on ancient hardware or support running old software
    (e.g., games) on current hardware. The former would not allow baseline changes, while the latter would allow, for example, using SSE without
    fallback (which as far as I understand some software already does on
    i386 or would like to do) or dropping support for AMD Geode processors.

    Ansgar

    [1]: https://salsa.debian.org/release-team/release.debian.org/-/blob/bb0660c80401eeacbe7063044a9a1b711dcc2303/www/bookworm/arch_spec.yaml#L108

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  • From Christian Kastner@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Tue Feb 15 21:00:01 2022
    On 2022-02-15 12:28, Marc Haber wrote:
    Unfortunately, I don't have any i386 systems left, there don't seem to
    be any public i386 porterboxes other than 64bit boxes running 32bit
    chroots, and the i386 port traditionally doesn't have a port-specific
    mailing list

    Package sbuild-qemu could help you here:

    # Build image
    $ sudo sbuild-qemu-create --arch i386 -o i386.img unstable http://deb.debian.org/debian
    $ sudo chown <user>:<group> i386.img

    # Boot QEMU VM to console
    $ sbuild-qemu-boot --arch i386 i386.img


    Since this seems to be tied to a particular CPU, you might need to hack
    the sbuild-qemu-boot script to include a '-cpu' option for
    qemu-system-i386 with a model that is somewhat similar to the Geode LX.

    Best,
    Christian

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  • From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to Ansgar on Wed Feb 16 21:00:01 2022
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 13:41:22 +0100, Ansgar <[email protected]> wrote:
    The architecture requalification page for bookworm currently lists a
    single porter for i386[1]. Maybe contact him directly?

    [1]: https://salsa.debian.org/release-team/release.debian.org/-/blob/bb0660c80401eeacbe7063044a9a1b711dcc2303/www/bookworm/arch_spec.yaml#L108

    That was a very helpful idea (and a very helpful porter). Things are
    going forward now. Thanks for helping.

    Greetings
    Marc
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