• Bug#1110222: release-notes: some words about armel arch?

    From Holger Wansing@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 14:30:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.doc

    Package: release-notes
    Severity: minor


    I realized that the release-notes list armel as supported arch, but there is
    no debian-installer for this arch anymore.

    Maybe we should add a sentence about this somewhere?

    Thoughts?


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  • From Chris Hofstaedtler@21:1/5 to Holger Wansing on Fri Aug 1 14:40:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.doc

    On Fri, Aug 01, 2025 at 02:25:03PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:
    Package: release-notes

    I realized that the release-notes list armel as supported arch, but there is no debian-installer for this arch anymore.

    Thank you for the reminder, I thought about this last week but
    immediately forgot about it again.

    Maybe we should add a sentence about this somewhere?

    Thoughts?

    I was wondering what the official armel architecture status is now.
    Is it in the same boat as i386, or something different?

    -release: could you clarify the situation?

    Thanks,
    Chris

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  • From Sebastian Ramacher@21:1/5 to Chris Hofstaedtler on Fri Aug 1 15:40:02 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.doc

    On 2025-08-01 14:35:22 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
    On Fri, Aug 01, 2025 at 02:25:03PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:
    Package: release-notes

    I realized that the release-notes list armel as supported arch, but there is
    no debian-installer for this arch anymore.

    Thank you for the reminder, I thought about this last week but
    immediately forgot about it again.

    Maybe we should add a sentence about this somewhere?

    Thoughts?

    I was wondering what the official armel architecture status is now.
    Is it in the same boat as i386, or something different?

    -release: could you clarify the situation?

    armel will be dropped after the trixie release, so forky will release
    without armel.

    The last discussion of that was in the thread starting at https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2024/08/msg00003.html.

    Cheers

    Thanks,
    Chris


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    Sebastian Ramacher

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  • From Chris Hofstaedtler@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 17:00:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.doc

    * Sebastian Ramacher <[email protected]> [250801 15:32]:
    On 2025-08-01 14:35:22 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
    On Fri, Aug 01, 2025 at 02:25:03PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:
    Package: release-notes

    I realized that the release-notes list armel as supported arch, but there is
    no debian-installer for this arch anymore.

    Thank you for the reminder, I thought about this last week but
    immediately forgot about it again.

    Maybe we should add a sentence about this somewhere?

    Thoughts?

    I was wondering what the official armel architecture status is now.
    Is it in the same boat as i386, or something different?

    -release: could you clarify the situation?

    armel will be dropped after the trixie release, so forky will release
    without armel.

    The last discussion of that was in the thread starting at >https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2024/08/msg00003.html.

    Thanks!

    So the release-notes could say something like:

    --- i/source/issues.rst
    +++ w/source/issues.rst
    @@ -41,6 +41,23 @@ possible, or retiring the hardware.
    `Cross-grading <https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading>`__ without a
    reinstall is a technically possible, but risky, alternative.

    +.. _armel_last_release:
    +
    +Last release for armel
    +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    +
    +From trixie, armel is no longer supported as a regular architecture:
    +there is no Debian installer for armel systems, and only Raspberry
    +Pi Zero, Zero W and 1 are supported by the kernel packages.
    +
    +Users running armel systems can upgrade to trixie, provided their
    +hardware is supported by the kernel packages, or they use a third-party +kernel.
    +
    +trixie will be the last release for the armel architecture. Debian +recommends, where possible, reinstalling armel systems as armhf or arm64,
    +or retiring the hardware.
    +
    .. _mips_removed:

    MIPS architectures removed


    Corrections, comments, insight, etc welcome.

    Chris

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  • From Chris Hofstaedtler@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 18:40:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.doc

    Control: forwarded -1 https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/-/merge_requests/303

    * Justin B Rye <[email protected]> [250801 17:20]:
    Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
    --- i/source/issues.rst
    +++ w/source/issues.rst
    @@ -41,6 +41,23 @@ possible, or retiring the hardware.
    `Cross-grading <https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading>`__ without a
    reinstall is a technically possible, but risky, alternative.
    +.. _armel_last_release:
    +
    +Last release for armel
    +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    +
    +From trixie, armel is no longer supported as a regular architecture:
    +there is no Debian installer for armel systems, and only Raspberry
    +Pi Zero, Zero W and 1 are supported by the kernel packages.

    Elsewhere we've mostly standardised on "serial comma", which would
    mean "Raspberry Pi Zero, Zero W, and 1" - that seems clearer to me.
    Or we might want to reorder it as "Raspberry Pi 1, Zero, and Zero W"
    if that was the order the models appeared in (I assume "1" is the
    2012 version that originally didn't have a version number).

    I've applied this and pushed it to https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/-/merge_requests/303

    Lets continue there.

    Chris

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