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  • Bug#1109166: English offensive fortunes already removed. This package h

    From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 12 23:50:01 2025
    Package: fortunes-es-off
    Severity: serious
    Tags: upstream




    -- System Information:
    Debian Release: 12.11
    APT prefers stable-updates
    APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable-security'), (500, 'stable')
    Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

    Kernel: Linux 6.1.0-37-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
    Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
    Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
    Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
    LSM: AppArmor: enabled

    Versions of packages fortunes-es-off depends on:
    pn fortune-mod <none>
    pn fortunes-es <none>

    fortunes-es-off recommends no packages.

    fortunes-es-off suggests no packages.

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  • From Agustin Martin@21:1/5 to Andrew M.A. Cater on Tue Jul 15 01:30:01 2025
    On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 09:31:51PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    Package: fortunes-es-off
    Severity: serious
    Tags: upstream

    Hi, Andrew,

    Looking how imperative bug title sounds I thought I missed a GR on this or
    at least a detailed discussion with a clear conclusion before this bug is
    filed with this severity. The only thing I found was this thread in debian-project

    https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2023/08/threads.html#00044

    This thread started after fortunes-off removal and I think it had no clear conclusion, leaving to maintainers to decide on individual -off packages.
    You are one of the contributors, so I will not go into the details.

    I am not current fortunes-es maintainer, but did some work in initial steps
    of the package and have been tracking it since then. I prepared initial
    version of the off section trying to strip everything that I considered
    not apropriate even for this section (explicit calls for violence should not
    be here, as well as things of too low quality). I added some fortunes with
    fun on males or females that I considered could even get a smile from
    supposed target. They are in the off package only because some people have a very low offense threshold and this helps to deal with this.

    So, I fully agree with fortunes-it-off maintainer when closing #1109167 and #1109165. Package is not automatically installed and AFAIR there has never
    been complaints about anyone that was offended by this -off package, so
    should be fine.

    There may be bad fortunes that were not detected by my filters at that time or by maintainer's filters later. If so, please file bug reports on them. Regarding this bug report I would close it as fortunes-it-off bug has been closed.

    Regards,

    --
    Agustin

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  • From Paul Gevers@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 17:10:01 2025
    To: [email protected]
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