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Package: xterm
Version: 398-1

The xterm package provides *.desktop files, but it is not
shown in Gnome's application window. This is not as expected.


Regards

Harri

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On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 04:17:31PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2025-07-04 13:35 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:

Package: xterm
Version: 398-1

The xterm package provides *.desktop files, but it is not
shown in Gnome's application window.

Because xterm is installed on most desktops (as a dependency of the xorg metapackage for instance), and Gnome packagers do no want to confuse
novice users with multiple terminal applications, so they blacklist
xterm.

actually, it's more than that. /etc/gnome/menus.blacklist lists
more than 150 desktop files, intentionally excluding anything that GNOME
may provide, including KDE, XFCE4, Vim (because after all, GNOME
provides a text-editor).

I don't see anything comparable in the other desktop environments.
(I install all of the ones that I know about, for testing).

This is not as expected.

Different people have different expectations, see the discussion in
#645736.

:-)

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https://invisible-island.net

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There is a blacklist? I had spent precious time searching for some
GUI or context menu to add and remove applications to show. I'd never
expected a static blacklist. It doesn't even have a man page.

Can anybody maintaining this blacklist imagine I have installed xterm,
vim and emacs on purpose, because I actually want to *use* them?

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On Sat, Jul 05, 2025 at 02:18:09PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:

There is a blacklist? I had spent precious time searching for some
GUI or context menu to add and remove applications to show. I'd never expected a static blacklist. It doesn't even have a man page.

that's the GNOME standard of performance

Can anybody maintaining this blacklist imagine I have installed xterm,
vim and emacs on purpose, because I actually want to *use* them?

Apparently, the answer is "no".

fwiw, none of those involved makes positive contributions to anything
that I work on.

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https://invisible-island.net

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