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  • Bug#267230: sa-exim: Please make sa-greylist patch the default

    From Jari Aalto@1:229/2 to All on Sat Aug 21 11:40:10 2004
    From: [email protected]

    Package: sa-exim
    Version: 4.1-1
    Severity: wishlist

    After reading README.greylisting.gz I must conlude that manually doing
    all the things that the documentation suggests is way too much to digest.
    For years trained SysAdms this might be all clear and easy but for the
    average users there is too many places that can go wrong. After all
    running a MTA in the first place is very serious business and touching something that would threathen the stabulity ... means that this
    possibly useful greylisting feature will left unused.

    Please consider shipping SA greylisting included in the core so that
    ot could be controlled as usual from local.cf

    -- System Information:
    Debian Release: 3.1
    Architecture: i386 (i686)
    Kernel: Linux 2.4.26.20040601
    Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US)

    Versions of packages sa-exim depends on:
    ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.4.32 Debian configuration management sy ii exim4-daemon-heavy 4.34-5 Exim (v4) with extended features, ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-16 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii spamc 2.64-1 Client for perl-based spam filteri

    -- debconf information:
    sa-exim/purge_spool: false


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  • From Sander Smeenk@1:229/2 to All on Sat Aug 21 12:00:15 2004
    From: [email protected]

    Quoting Jari Aalto ([email protected]):

    After reading README.greylisting.gz I must conlude that manually doing
    all the things that the documentation suggests is way too much to digest.
    For years trained SysAdms this might be all clear and easy but for the average users there is too many places that can go wrong. After all
    running a MTA in the first place is very serious business and touching something that would threathen the stabulity ...

    In my personal opinion, inexperienced users shouldn't even want to think
    about running an MTA in the first place. AFAIK, most of the spam on the
    net comes from MTA's that have been badly configured...

    Please consider shipping SA greylisting included in the core so that
    ot could be controlled as usual from local.cf

    I'm not maintaining 'spamassassin', the upstream author of sa-exim did
    infact send his greylisting patches to the spamassassin upstream, but
    there haven't been much reply to it, i gather...

    I'll inform some more on the status of the greylisting patches being
    included by default.

    Regards,
    Sander.
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  • From Jari Aalto@1:229/2 to All on Sat Aug 21 19:30:16 2004
    From: [email protected]

    > After reading README.greylisting.gz I must conlude that manually doing
    > all the things that the documentation suggests is way too much to digest.
    > For years trained SysAdms this might be all clear and easy but for the
    > average users there is too many places that can go wrong. After all
    > running a MTA in the first place is very serious business and touching
    > something that would threathen the stabulity ...

    In my personal opinion, inexperienced users shouldn't even want to think
    about running an MTA in the first place. AFAIK, most of the spam on the
    net comes from MTA's that have been badly configured...

    What i meant that a possibly highly useful feature may not be used in spite
    of included documentation. Experienced or not sysadm will weight the
    stability over getting anventurous with patches and numerous
    configurations.

    > Please consider shipping SA greylisting included in the core so that
    > ot could be controlled as usual from local.cf

    I'm not maintaining 'spamassassin', the upstream author of sa-exim did
    infact send his greylisting patches to the spamassassin upstream, but
    there haven't been much reply to it, i gather...

    I'll inform some more on the status of the greylisting patches being
    included by default.

    Thank you. It would be a excellent addition to already good SA-Exim. Please
    try to press the patches to upstream.

    Jari


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  • From Sander Smeenk@1:229/2 to All on Sat Aug 21 19:40:11 2004
    From: [email protected]

    Quoting Jari Aalto ([email protected]):

    Could you please fix your MUA to quote properly? That would be great.

    In my personal opinion, inexperienced users shouldn't even want to think about running an MTA in the first place. AFAIK, most of the spam on the
    net comes from MTA's that have been badly configured...
    What i meant that a possibly highly useful feature may not be used in
    spite of included documentation. Experienced or not sysadm will weight
    the stability over getting anventurous with patches and numerous configurations.

    The whole reason i am not running greylisting myself is that the patches
    aren't in the official spamassassin upstream releases yet, and
    implementing the patch myself might break on upgrades.

    So, with that, I do agree. But I still think people should get a
    'drivers license' for running an MX.

    I'm not maintaining 'spamassassin', the upstream author of sa-exim
    did infact send his greylisting patches to the spamassassin upstream
    I'll inform some more on the status of the greylisting patches being included by default.
    Thank you. It would be a excellent addition to already good SA-Exim.
    Please try to press the patches to upstream.

    Ok. Seems like a good idea to me too!

    Kind regards,
    Sander.

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