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  • Bug#248319: Vpopmail/Courier integration

    From Stuart Anderson@1:229/2 to All on Wed Aug 11 06:20:08 2004
    From: [email protected]

    I'd like to add that this situation causes a regression when upgrading
    from Woody to Sarge. A previously functioning mail server will stop
    working once the Sarge packages for vpopmail/courier get installed
    during an upgrade.


    Stuart

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  • From Pawel Wiecek@1:229/2 to Stuart Anderson on Wed Aug 11 22:10:10 2004
    From: [email protected]

    On Aug 10, 11:56pm, Stuart Anderson wrote:
    from Woody to Sarge. A previously functioning mail server will stop
    working once the Sarge packages for vpopmail/courier get installed
    during an upgrade.

    Could you describe it? Taken into account the only change in vpopmail's dependencies it *loosening* the dependency on qmail I see no way it could
    break the configuration. And not knowing anything about it I cannot fix it :^)

    Pawel

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  • From Stuart Anderson@1:229/2 to Pawel Wiecek on Thu Aug 12 20:20:08 2004
    From: [email protected]

    On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Pawel Wiecek wrote:

    Could you describe it? Taken into account the only change in vpopmail's dependencies it *loosening* the dependency on qmail I see no way it could break the configuration. And not knowing anything about it I cannot fix it :^)

    I have continued digging into why this hapened by comparing a server
    with a similar config that is still Woody, with the one that got
    upgraded to sarge (for a nice before and after comparison). What I
    discovered, was that I had installed (and subsequently forgotten about) courier-authvchkpw, which had come from moolfreet.com, instead of debian.org. The upgrade then caused this package to get uninstalled, thus the
    regression.

    Because this other package is involved, I must conceed that technically,
    this is not a regression in the packages as provided by Debian.

    I suspect that others are running the same configuration of packages, and
    will see the same problem when they upgrade as well. Hopefully, the
    additional comments here will save them some time when they start tryig
    to figure out what happened also.

    At the risk of beating a dead horse, I will say that it sure would be
    nice if all of the pieces needed to implement a mailserver in this
    fashion could all be obtained from the coherent pool provided by Debian.

    I do note, that the maildir-filter package seems to be similar in nature
    to vpopmail in that it is primarily useful when used with qmail and only suggests qmail (as vpopmail does now), yet it is allowed to be in main.

    Would it not be possible for the vpopmail package to move back into main
    now that the qmail dependency has been reduced to a suggestion?



    Stuart

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  • From Pawel Wiecek@1:229/2 to Stuart Anderson on Thu Aug 12 22:30:12 2004
    From: [email protected]

    On Aug 12, 1:55pm, Stuart Anderson wrote:
    courier-authvchkpw, which had come from moolfreet.com, instead of debian.org.

    Perhaps this should be packaged for Debian -- either by courier maintainer or by me. Or maybe by the one who packaged it before.

    Would it not be possible for the vpopmail package to move back into main
    now that the qmail dependency has been reduced to a suggestion?

    Perhaps.

    Pawel

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  • From Stuart Anderson@1:229/2 to Pawel Wiecek on Thu Aug 12 23:50:04 2004
    From: [email protected]

    On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Pawel Wiecek wrote:

    Perhaps this should be packaged for Debian -- either by courier maintainer or by me. Or maybe by the one who packaged it before.

    With the current courier code, a seperate package doesn't appear to be
    needed (if this feature is enabled), and I suspect it would be inconvenient
    to make one of the packages produced from the build be in a different
    section (contrib vs main).

    From bug #182040, it appears that this feature is not enabled because it
    would create a dependency that would force the courier package to move
    from main->contrib. This is what prompted me to question wether the root
    cause of this chain of dependencies hasn't been cleared up now.

    Would it not be possible for the vpopmail package to move back into main now that the qmail dependency has been reduced to a suggestion?

    Perhaps.

    That's encouraging! How might this happen?



    Stuart

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  • From Pawel Wiecek@1:229/2 to Stuart Anderson on Fri Aug 13 10:30:19 2004
    From: [email protected]

    On Aug 12, 5:19pm, Stuart Anderson wrote:
    With the current courier code, a seperate package doesn't appear to be
    needed (if this feature is enabled), and I suspect it would be inconvenient

    Ah, OK.

    That's encouraging! How might this happen?

    We'll see ;^)

    Pawel

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