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Christian Perrier wrote:

it should be fairly easy to write a script that handles the locale environment of gdm. But i don't really use gdm so I don't know the possible values and i have little spare time to study it right now.
If someone would give me the variable that must be set and the
possible entries for the available locales, I'd be happy to write the script.

That seems fairly easy. You need to set LANG in /etc/default/gdm. The
value is the language's ISO-639 code

base-config is already taking care of this.

But, I guess that default KDE sessions use the configured language as
a default and not English, and then do not prompt the user about the language, is it?

In my experience it has an annoying prompt for language still.

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Quoting Joey Hess ([email protected]):

That seems fairly easy. You need to set LANG in /etc/default/gdm. The
value is the language's ISO-639 code

base-config is already taking care of this.

Yep, I've seen that patch by Otavio. However, we should keep in mind
this is a good workaround but the long term solution for this more
pertains to l-c (localization-config, of course).



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On Παρ 20 Αυγ 2004 12:38, Joey Hess wrote:

But, I guess that default KDE sessions use the configured
language as a default and not English, and then do not prompt the
user about the language, is it?

In my experience it has an annoying prompt for language still.

It does, but I thought that this was actually a nice feature, after
all, a user like the idea of being asked this kind of info (I know I
do). Anyway, it is very simple to configure just like in KDE2 so if
you feel it has to be done, i'll do it.

Konstantinos

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package: installation-reports
version: Debian GNU/Linux testing "Sarge" - Official Snapshot i386 \
Binary-1 (20040806)

Hi all,

I just installed the Debian Sarge with the CD mentionned above (I
suppose this is the Debian Installer RC1) and I found the following
issues concerning localization. Note that I used the "linux26" install
and chose the "Desktop Environment" set of packages.

1) when the installation is finished, gdm start localized (in french for
me) because the installer is setting LANG and gdm uses it when it
starts, however after a reboot messages are in English : LANG isn't set
at boot time and /etc/default/gdm isn't filled : it has a line
LANG=
where I think it should be
LANG=<LANG you chose at installation time>

2) Console font is set to ISO-8859-15 only for the first terminal.
Why not also set it for others vc ?
Config file /etc/console-tools/config is containing
APP_CHARSET_MAP=<some charset>
Why not add (for 1<n<=6)
APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc<n>=<same charset>

3) KDE starts in English : kde-i18n-fr isn't on the first CD
I didn't try with a two or more CD set because I am finishing the
installation using a network connection with another computer with a
DVD-reader (so using DVD Debian images).
This may be a non-issue with more CDs or a DVD, but I note that GNOME
however is in French. (gnome-libs-data is on the first CD).

4) When GNOME starts, it is displaying an error about xscreensaver
missing. As xscreensaver is on the first CD, why not install it ?
(OK, this is not a localization issue, but "some issues" would have been
a little too vague as a subject... :-) )

5) The X server is using the keyboard in qwerty mode as others reported, requiring to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or to edit manually /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ...
Actually, it seems that the XF86Config-4 is a default one, as the
resolution wasn't optimal either, but I forgot to check that...

OK, most of these issues already been posted (except the second one ?),
but I hope my propositions may help you doing the job faster :-)

You did a great job with the Debian Installer RC1, however my father
still would have some problems with the preceding points (except the
second one as he doesn't use the console anyway).
Keep improving and Thanks for all !

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clone 266075 -1 -2
reassign -1 localization-config
retitle -1 Should set LANG in /etc/default/gdm
reassign -2 languagechooser
retitle -2 Should set console font for all virtual consoles
reassign 266075 languagechooser
retitle 266075 Should trigger installation of localization-config when installing in a language different from English

1) when the installation is finished, gdm start localized (in french for
me) because the installer is setting LANG and gdm uses it when it
starts, however after a reboot messages are in English : LANG isn't set
at boot time and /etc/default/gdm isn't filled : it has a line
LANG=
where I think it should be
LANG=<LANG you chose at installation time>

IIRC, this is a know gdm issue. There has been some debate about
having it use the system locale.

This could me solved by using the localization-config package recently
uploaded by Konstantinos, I guess. Kostas, what do you think of it?

2) Console font is set to ISO-8859-15 only for the first terminal.
Why not also set it for others vc ?
Config file /etc/console-tools/config is containing
APP_CHARSET_MAP=<some charset>
Why not add (for 1<n<=6)
APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc<n>=<same charset>

Good suggestion. Should be easy to add to languagechooser's prebaseconfig

3) KDE starts in English : kde-i18n-fr isn't on the first CD
I didn't try with a two or more CD set because I am finishing the installation using a network connection with another computer with a DVD-reader (so using DVD Debian images).
This may be a non-issue with more CDs or a DVD, but I note that GNOME
however is in French. (gnome-libs-data is on the first CD).

hmm,not sure about that one.

localization-config allows KDE to be localized by default, so this is
an argument for adding this package. This was already suggested and I
take this opportunity.

4) When GNOME starts, it is displaying an error about xscreensaver
missing. As xscreensaver is on the first CD, why not install it ?
(OK, this is not a localization issue, but "some issues" would have been
a little too vague as a subject... :-) )

And this is not an installer issue also. You should report this
against the relevant package, but indeed the place of packages is
determined by popularity-contest stats, so....

5) The X server is using the keyboard in qwerty mode as others reported, requiring to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or to edit manually /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ...
Actually, it seems that the XF86Config-4 is a default one, as the
resolution wasn't optimal either, but I forgot to check that...

Very well known and tricky problem...which should be solved by localization-config being added to the default installs.

Many thanks for your report....it raises issues which may be difficult
to solve before sarge but, well, they will be dealt with some day.





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On Δευ 16 Αυγ 2004 20:45, Christian Perrier wrote:

This could me solved by using the localization-config package
recently uploaded by Konstantinos, I guess. Kostas, what do you
think of it?

it should be fairly easy to write a script that handles the locale
environment of gdm. But i don't really use gdm so I don't know the
possible values and i have little spare time to study it right now.
If someone would give me the variable that must be set and the
possible entries for the available locales, I'd be happy to write the
script.

3) KDE starts in English : kde-i18n-fr isn't on the first CD
I didn't try with a two or more CD set because I am finishing the installation using a network connection with another computer
with a DVD-reader (so using DVD Debian images).
This may be a non-issue with more CDs or a DVD, but I note that
GNOME however is in French. (gnome-libs-data is on the first CD).

hmm,not sure about that one.

localization-config allows KDE to be localized by default, so this
is an argument for adding this package. This was already suggested
and I take this opportunity.

KDE is already localized by default (at least for Greek it is) once
the user chooses the correct task in tasksel (thus making sure the
correct kde-i18n-xx package is installed). There is nothing specific
to Greek though so I guess it should work for all locales the same
way. localization-config does nothing for kde3 localization. By
localization, I mean the translated menus, etc. The X keyboard stuff
is dealt separetely.

Konstantinos

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it should be fairly easy to write a script that handles the locale environment of gdm. But i don't really use gdm so I don't know the
possible values and i have little spare time to study it right now.
If someone would give me the variable that must be set and the
possible entries for the available locales, I'd be happy to write the
script.

That seems fairly easy. You need to set LANG in /etc/default/gdm. The
value is the language's ISO-639 code

KDE is already localized by default (at least for Greek it is) once
the user chooses the correct task in tasksel (thus making sure the
correct kde-i18n-xx package is installed). There is nothing specific
to Greek though so I guess it should work for all locales the same
way. localization-config does nothing for kde3 localization. By
localization, I mean the translated menus, etc. The X keyboard stuff
is dealt separetely.

But, I guess that default KDE sessions use the configured language as
a default and not English, and then do not prompt the user about the
language, is it?


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Alexandre Hessemann wrote:

1) when the installation is finished, gdm start localized (in french for
me) because the installer is setting LANG and gdm uses it when it
starts, however after a reboot messages are in English : LANG isn't set
at boot time and /etc/default/gdm isn't filled : it has a line
LANG=
where I think it should be
LANG=<LANG you chose at installation time>

This is bug #265101.

3) KDE starts in English : kde-i18n-fr isn't on the first CD
I didn't try with a two or more CD set because I am finishing the installation using a network connection with another computer with a DVD-reader (so using DVD Debian images).
This may be a non-issue with more CDs or a DVD, but I note that GNOME
however is in French. (gnome-libs-data is on the first CD).

I'm afraid some things just don't fit on one CD, and a full set of kde localisations in amoung them.

4) When GNOME starts, it is displaying an error about xscreensaver
missing. As xscreensaver is on the first CD, why not install it ?

What kind of error? I've never seen this error.

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