Control: reassign -1 firefox

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 05:37:24PM -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:

Control: retitle -1 Are the Firefox Terms of Use suitable for Debian?

As described in Mozilla’s communication, due to changes in laws in various places where Mozilla operates (particularly California and the
EU), having a clear Terms of Use in the product became a necessity (all other major browsers also have terms, open source or not).

Sylvestre, your final parenthetical claim here appears to not be true
for the only other major web browser in Debian and therefore an easy alternative for Debian to switch to now: chromium.

Sylvestre, would Mozilla strongly object if Debian patched Firefox to
remove links to the Terms of Use and links to the Privacy Notice?

It looks to me like we have a situation where the maintainer of
firefox-esr is a Mozilla employee and may be unwilling to take any
action on this issue. Meanwhile, this is an RC bug and firefox-esr is eligible for automatic removal from Debian Testing which is causing a
burden on other Debian maintainers and bug fixers since other things
are marked for automatic removal because they depend on firefox-esr. I
think we'll need the Debian Release Team to weigh in on this issue
soon.

Actually, we don't, because ESR 128 doesn't have the code that shows the
Terms of Use.

Mike

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Jeremy B�cha wrote:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/ which does include the
new Terms of Use.

I don't see a link on that page to the new ToU. (It does link to some
ToU's of chatbots.)

It is also linked to in Help > About Firefox.

Indeed it is! While this is a ways from "making it a part of the
standard product experience" that was promised for early March and still
does not seem to have happened, it seems to me that by making those
clicks, I've made a legally binding agreement with Mozilla to grant them
a license to all content I enter into firefox.

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