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    From =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_S=c3=a9lea?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 19:50:01 2017
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    Intressant, tack f�r att du delade med dig :)
    Sj�lv k�r jag postfix, men jag antar att man kan k�ra den som ett milter?
    Eller ska man avvakta tills postfix �r supporterat?

    /J


    On 2017-11-22 19:00, Per Eric Ros�n wrote:
    [shameless plug ...]

    Jag anv�nder som s� m�nga andra admin f�r e-post greylisting - ett
    s�tt f�r att bek�mpa spam i ett f�rsta led och minska belastningen p� spamassassin eller andra mer detaljerade senare system f�r
    klassificering.

    Jag upplevde att befintlig mjukvara �r n�got fyrkantig - den ger samma f�rdr�jning innan f�rsta mail per avs�ndare accepteras, oavsett om
    s�ndande server �r betrodd eller ej.

    D�rf�r har jag skrivit ett verktyg - ddgrey - f�r greylisting som ska
    stoppa fler spam och sl�ppa igenom legitim e-post snabbare. Det
    analyserar e-postloggen och ger kortare eller l�ngre v�ntetid beroende
    p� om e-post klassades som spam. Det anv�nder ocks� n�gra utvalda DNS-baserade listor f�r servrars rykte, och kan anv�nda information
    fr�n spamf�llor eller manuella rapporter. Om du har flera
    e-postservrar kan du k�ra ddgrey p� samtliga och dela data mellan dem
    om hur p�litliga olika servrar �r.

    Vill du provk�ra? Vore roligt, och kom g�rna med synpunkter / f�rslag
    / buggrapporter. Du beh�ver installera med "make install" och redigera
    ett par rader konfiguration enligt instruktioner i README.

    Programmet �r inte paketerat som debianpaket, men provat i oldstable
    debian och b�r i dagsl�get fungera enklast med exim. Det �r i tidig
    beta - jag har anv�nt det skarpt med framg�ng p� egna servrar i ett
    halv�r, men det l�r naturligtvis finnas en hel del att l�ra av
    anv�ndning p� andra system eller instruktionerna faktiskt �r f�rst�eliga.

    Fri mjukvara enligt GPL 3, och finns att h�mta h�r: https://github.com/perericr/ddgrey

    Tekniska detaljer: skriven i perl baserat p� entr�ds icke-blockerande IO. Anv�nder bara vanliga perlmoduler fr�n debian inklusive SQLite.

    /Per Eric
    --
    ^): Per Eric Ros�n http://rosnix.net/~per/
    /�� [email protected] GPG 7A7A BD68 ADC0 01E1 F560 79FD 33D1 1EC3 1EBB 7311



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  • From =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Per_Eric_Ros=E9n?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 21:40:01 2017
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    Intressant, tack f�r att du delade med dig :)
    Sj�lv k�r jag postfix, men jag antar att man kan k�ra den som ett milter? Eller ska man avvakta tills postfix �r supporterat?

    Tack!

    I exim anropas greylisting av olika slag fr�n en ACL genom att skicka en
    rad med data kuvert-data till en socket (lokal eller TCP), och sen f� en
    rad till svar, till exempel grey|black|white. S� ocks� f�r ddgrey.
    Det anv�nds IIRC f�r n�gra andra MTA ocks�.

    Postfix verkar (http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html) skicka
    ett antal rader med key=value, och sen skicka en rad key=value. Det borde
    g� r�tt l�tt att en version av GreylistServer.pm och GreylistClientConnection.pm i ddgrey som tar emot data enligt postfix
    support. F�r b�sta st�d b�r det ocks� finnas en modul som kan l�sa
    postfix h�ndelselogg f�r att f� information om mail levererades, klassades
    som spam, gick till ok�nd mottagere etc. Allts� en version p� Exim4.pm.

    S� det beh�vs nog lite anpassning f�r Postfix, men inget o�verkomligt. Jag
    har inte erfarenhet av postfix sj�lv, men skriver upp det p� TODO. Om du
    n�gon mer postfix-van admin vill testa att g�ra en s�dan modul �r s�klart patchar eller pull request v�lkomna :-)

    /Per Eric
    --
    ^): Per Eric Ros�n http://rosnix.net/~per/
    / [email protected] GPG 7A7A BD68 ADC0 01E1 F560 79FD 33D1 1EC3 1EBB 7311

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_S=c3=a9lea?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 28 12:50:01 2017
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    Tjena igen,

    Eftersom du anv�nde dig utav exim, s� vill jag bara uppm�rksamma dig p�
    detta:

    https://cert.se/2017/11/allvarliga-sarbarheter-i-mailserven-exim

    I dagsl�get finns det inte n�gon fix utan man f�r helt enkelt st�nga av chunking.

    /J



    On 11/22/2017 09:39 PM, Per Eric Ros�n wrote:
    Intressant, tack f�r att du delade med dig :)
    Sj�lv k�r jag postfix, men jag antar att man kan k�ra den som ett
    milter?
    Eller ska man avvakta tills postfix �r supporterat?

    Tack!

    I exim anropas greylisting av olika slag fr�n en ACL genom att skicka
    en rad med data kuvert-data till en socket (lokal eller TCP), och sen
    f� en rad till svar, till exempel grey|black|white. S� ocks� f�r ddgrey.
    Det anv�nds IIRC f�r n�gra andra MTA ocks�.

    Postfix verkar (http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html)
    skicka ett antal rader med key=value, och sen skicka en rad key=value.
    Det borde g� r�tt l�tt att en version av GreylistServer.pm och GreylistClientConnection.pm i ddgrey som tar emot data enligt postfix support. F�r b�sta st�d b�r det ocks� finnas en modul som kan l�sa
    postfix h�ndelselogg f�r att f� information om mail levererades,
    klassades som spam, gick till ok�nd mottagere etc. Allts� en version
    p� Exim4.pm.

    S� det beh�vs nog lite anpassning f�r Postfix, men inget o�verkomligt.
    Jag har inte erfarenhet av postfix sj�lv, men skriver upp det p� TODO.
    Om du n�gon mer postfix-van admin vill testa att g�ra en s�dan modul
    �r s�klart patchar eller pull request v�lkomna :-)

    /Per Eric
    --
    ^): Per Eric Ros�n http://rosnix.net/~per/
    /�� [email protected] GPG 7A7A BD68 ADC0 01E1 F560 79FD 33D1 1EC3 1EBB 7311



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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_S=c3=a9lea?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 10 11:40:02 2018
    This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format.

    TJena,

    Funderar varf�r detta paketet togs bort utav unattended-upgrade f�r
    n�gra dagar sedan:

    Start-Date: 2018-01-06� 06:43:44
    Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade
    Remove: php7.1-mbstring:amd64 (7.1.13-1+0~20180105151623.14+stretch~1.gbp1086fa)
    End-Date: 2018-01-06� 06:43:50

    N�gon som kan ge en fingervisning om var man ska kolla?

    Tack! / Jonathan


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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ludvig Andersson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 10 12:20:02 2018
    Hej Jonathan!

    Verkar som om php7.0-mbstring [1] packats med Stretch. php-mbstring [2]
    kr�ver det paketet. Min gissning �r att du f�tt in php7.1-mbstring [3]
    via Buster eller Sid [4] och att det tagits bort f�r att l�sa n�gon
    konflikt.

    /Ludde

    1 : https://packages.debian.org/stretch/php7.0-mbstring
    2 : https://packages.debian.org/stretch/php-mbstring
    3 : https://packages.debian.org/buster/php7.1-mbstring
    4 : https://packages.debian.org/sid/php7.1-mbstring

    On 2018-01-10 11:23, Jonathan S�lea wrote:
    TJena,

    Funderar varf�r detta paketet togs bort utav unattended-upgrade f�r
    n�gra dagar sedan:

    Start-Date: 2018-01-06 06:43:44
    Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade
    Remove: php7.1-mbstring:amd64 (7.1.13-1+0~20180105151623.14+stretch~1.gbp1086fa)
    End-Date: 2018-01-06 06:43:50

    N�gon som kan ge en fingervisning om var man ska kolla?

    Tack! / Jonathan


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_S=c3=a9lea?=@21:1/5 to Ludvig Andersson on Wed Jan 10 12:40:01 2018
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    Tjena,

    Anv�nder sury.org's repository och har gjort det l�nge utan att se n�got s�dant.

    N�r jag tittar i term.log, s� kan jag se att unattended-upgrades k�rdes 2018-01-06 06:41 och uppdaterade samtliga php-paket (f�r 5.6, 7.0, 7.1
    och 7.2) inklusive php7.1-mbstring.

    Tv� minuter senare, s� k�rs unattended-upgrades igen och d� tar den bort php7.1-mbstring paketet.

    / Jonathan


    On 01/10/2018 12:06 PM, Ludvig Andersson wrote:
    Hej Jonathan!

    Verkar som om php7.0-mbstring [1] packats med Stretch. php-mbstring
    [2] kr�ver det paketet. Min gissning �r att du f�tt in php7.1-mbstring
    [3] via Buster eller Sid [4] och att det tagits bort f�r att l�sa
    n�gon konflikt.

    /Ludde

    1 : https://packages.debian.org/stretch/php7.0-mbstring
    2 : https://packages.debian.org/stretch/php-mbstring
    3 : https://packages.debian.org/buster/php7.1-mbstring
    4 : https://packages.debian.org/sid/php7.1-mbstring

    On 2018-01-10 11:23, Jonathan S�lea wrote:
    TJena,

    Funderar varf�r detta paketet togs bort utav unattended-upgrade f�r
    n�gra dagar sedan:

    Start-Date: 2018-01-06� 06:43:44
    Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade
    Remove: php7.1-mbstring:amd64
    (7.1.13-1+0~20180105151623.14+stretch~1.gbp1086fa)
    End-Date: 2018-01-06� 06:43:50

    N�gon som kan ge en fingervisning om var man ska kolla?

    Tack! / Jonathan





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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_S=C3=A9lea?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 10 16:10:01 2018
    Hej igen!

    Nu har jag grävt i detta och kommit fram till att problemet beror på ”unattended-upgrades” som inte hade flaggan:

    Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "false";

    Har nu lagt till detta, då apt "tolkade" detta paketet att den inte hade något annat paket som var beroende utav det.



    On 2018-01-10 12:33, Jonathan Sélea wrote:
    Tjena,

    Använder sury.org's repository och har gjort det länge utan att se
    något sådant.

    När jag tittar i term.log, så kan jag se att unattended-upgrades
    kördes 2018-01-06 06:41 och uppdaterade samtliga php-paket (för 5.6,
    7.0, 7.1 och 7.2) inklusive php7.1-mbstring.

    Två minuter senare, så körs unattended-upgrades igen och då tar den
    bort php7.1-mbstring paketet.

    / Jonathan


    On 01/10/2018 12:06 PM, Ludvig Andersson wrote:
    Hej Jonathan!

    Verkar som om php7.0-mbstring [1] packats med Stretch. php-mbstring
    [2] kräver det paketet. Min gissning är att du fått in php7.1-mbstring
    [3] via Buster eller Sid [4] och att det tagits bort för att lösa
    någon konflikt.

    /Ludde

    1 : https://packages.debian.org/stretch/php7.0-mbstring
    2 : https://packages.debian.org/stretch/php-mbstring
    3 : https://packages.debian.org/buster/php7.1-mbstring
    4 : https://packages.debian.org/sid/php7.1-mbstring

    On 2018-01-10 11:23, Jonathan Sélea wrote:
    TJena,

    Funderar varför detta paketet togs bort utav unattended-upgrade för
    några dagar sedan:

    Start-Date: 2018-01-06  06:43:44
    Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade
    Remove: php7.1-mbstring:amd64
    (7.1.13-1+0~20180105151623.14+stretch~1.gbp1086fa)
    End-Date: 2018-01-06  06:43:50

    Någon som kan ge en fingervisning om var man ska kolla?

    Tack! / Jonathan



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