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  • From Timo =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hling?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 15 10:50:02 2021
    * Миша <[email protected]> [2021-06-15 08:42]:
    Hello! I would like you to add my certification authority in the list of trusted certs
    TL;DR: No

    First of all, you should probably use LetsEncrypt [1].

    If you just want to play around and learn, you can add your CA cert
    locally: just put it into /usr/local/share/ca-certificates and run "update-ca-certificates" [2]. Your browser will probably have its
    own list, so you'll have to add it there, too. If you don't know
    how, you can find tutorials on the web.

    And if you actually, really want to be a publicly trusted CA, you
    must, at the very least, adhere to the CA/Browser Forum baseline
    requirements [3]. This is neither easy nor cheap, and we cannot help
    you with that either.

    - Timo

    [1] https://letsencrypt.org/
    [2] https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/ca-certificates/update-ca-certificates.8.en.html
    [3] https://cabforum.org/baseline-requirements-documents/

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 15 11:10:02 2021
    On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 08:42:02AM +0300, Миша wrote:
    Hello! I would like you to add my certification authority in the list of trusted certs

    What's this: an attempt at social engineering or a hoax?

    Cheers
    - t

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  • From Christoph Biedl@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 15 11:30:01 2021
    [email protected] wrote...

    On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 08:42:02AM +0300, Миша wrote:
    Hello! I would like you to add my certification authority in the list of trusted certs

    What's this: an attempt at social engineering or a hoax?

    Cannot tell, but the elder remember "Honest Achmed's Used Cars and Certificates": https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647959

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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 15 17:30:02 2021
    Миша <[email protected]> writes:

    "This is neither easy nor cheap, and we cannot help
    you with that either." You can add my cert in source code.

    Right, but we won't. This is nothing against you personally (I know
    absolutely nothing about your CA or how you run it). It's for several
    other reasons:

    1. Verifying certificate authorities use good practices is a complex and
    complicated problem that is way outside of Debian's area of expertise.

    2. It's not very useful and causes lots of problems if different
    distributions use different sets of trusted certificates. There's a
    lot of merit in standardizing the default trusted root CA list across
    multiple distributions and web browsers.

    We instead defer decisions about the default trusted root CA certificates
    to Mozilla and copy their trusted store. For local root CAs, we provide a mechanism for you to install your own trusted certs on the systems you maintain. See /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates/README.Debian for more
    details.

    For most situations, the right answer is either to use Let's Encrypt (for public-facing services) or to automate installing your own CA on your
    systems (for private PKIs).

    --
    Russ Allbery ([email protected]) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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