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  • Bug#864144: e2fsprogs strangeness about mips* multilibs

    From Helmut Grohne@21:1/5 to Theodore Ts'o on Sun Jun 4 23:00:01 2017
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist

    Hi Ted,

    On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 02:46:08PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
    I'm going to confess complete ignorance to what's going on with mips.
    In the past my modus operandi is that I would make changes in response
    to requests to the MIPS porters, in some cases with incomplete
    understand why they were needed in the first place.

    My bias would be to remove *all* of the mips specific exceptions in
    the debian directory, and then see if things still build on mips, and
    if there are any known problems caused by the mips installer or mips bootpath. And if we do need to add back any exceptions for the MIPS architecture, let's make sure it's very clearly documented why they
    are there. Because at the moment, I'm a bit embarassed at my
    inability to answer your perfectly reasonable questions. :-)

    I think the approach is reasonable. I did put
    [email protected] into X-Debbugs-Cc for this reason and am
    full quoting your reply to that list now to have them object.

    Does that seem reasonable? Are you willing to work with me to figure
    out whether such a plan is going to cause problems with the installer
    team, et. al? And I assume that because we're just about to release
    Debian stable, this is really a post stretch activity, yes? Or is the current state sufficient undesirable that it rises to the level of
    release critical? (I don't think so, but I'm willing to be
    pursuaded.)

    I actually thought that severity wishlist would have made it perfectly
    clear that this is intended post-stretch, but I can spell it out
    explicitly: No, I didn't expect this to be fixed in stretch.

    The context of my work is making Debian cross buildable and
    bootstrappable. Preferably, reproducibly. At least for the first part we
    know roughly 1300 packages are cross buildable. So this bug really is a
    drop in the bucket.

    So let's give [email protected] time to object until stretch is released.

    Helmut

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  • From James Cowgill@21:1/5 to Helmut Grohne on Sun Jun 4 23:40:02 2017
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist
    To: [email protected]
    Copy: [email protected]

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    Hi,

    On 04/06/17 20:51, Helmut Grohne wrote:
    Hi Ted,

    On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 02:46:08PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
    I'm going to confess complete ignorance to what's going on with mips.
    In the past my modus operandi is that I would make changes in response
    to requests to the MIPS porters, in some cases with incomplete
    understand why they were needed in the first place.

    My bias would be to remove *all* of the mips specific exceptions in
    the debian directory, and then see if things still build on mips, and
    if there are any known problems caused by the mips installer or mips
    bootpath. And if we do need to add back any exceptions for the MIPS
    architecture, let's make sure it's very clearly documented why they
    are there. Because at the moment, I'm a bit embarassed at my
    inability to answer your perfectly reasonable questions. :-)

    I think the approach is reasonable. I did put
    [email protected] into X-Debbugs-Cc for this reason and am
    full quoting your reply to that list now to have them object.

    From what I can tell, the only purpose of the extra mips libraries is to support some old bootloaders/firmware - arcboot being the only package I
    know which used this. No "normal" packages in the archive would have
    been able to use them unless they were statically linked. Since arcboot
    was removed, I think it should be safe to remove these special libraries
    from e2fsprogs.

    Thanks,
    James


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