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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On 5/14/24 11:59, MAURIZI Lorenzo wrote:

Scusate sono un po' rimasto indietro nel thread...

Comunque, per rispondere ad una domanda di Piviul di 20 messaggi fa...
Nel 99% dei casi io ho sempre trovato, negli UPS che ho avuto sotto mano, batterie da 12V 9Ah e contatti Faston da 6.3mm.
Nel caso della FIAMM, il modello esatto è 12FGHL34.

veramente a me sembra che le batterie APC siano a 7Ah, sei sicuro che
vadano bene anche le 9Ah?

Piviul

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Il 15 maggio 2024 12:07:15 UTC, Piviul <[email protected]> ha scritto:

On 5/14/24 11:59, MAURIZI Lorenzo wrote:

Scusate sono un po' rimasto indietro nel thread...

Comunque, per rispondere ad una domanda di Piviul di 20 messaggi fa...
Nel 99% dei casi io ho sempre trovato, negli UPS che ho avuto sotto mano, batterie da 12V 9Ah e contatti Faston da 6.3mm.
Nel caso della FIAMM, il modello esatto è 12FGHL34.

veramente a me sembra che le batterie APC siano a 7Ah, sei sicuro che vadano bene anche le 9Ah?

Piviul

Sono da 9Ah

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On 5/15/24 23:49, Paride Desimone wrote:

Il 15 maggio 2024 12:07:15 UTC, Piviul <[email protected]> ha scritto:

On 5/14/24 11:59, MAURIZI Lorenzo wrote:

Scusate sono un po' rimasto indietro nel thread...

Comunque, per rispondere ad una domanda di Piviul di 20 messaggi fa...
Nel 99% dei casi io ho sempre trovato, negli UPS che ho avuto sotto mano, batterie da 12V 9Ah e contatti Faston da 6.3mm.
Nel caso della FIAMM, il modello esatto è 12FGHL34.

veramente a me sembra che le batterie APC siano a 7Ah, sei sicuro che vadano bene anche le 9Ah?

Piviul

Sono da 9Ah

Ho verificato, abbiamo ragione tutti e due, dipende dai modelli:

https://www.apc.com/it/it/product/APCRBC110/cartucce-batterie-di-sostituzione-apc-n-110-con-2-anni-di-garanzia/
https://www.apc.com/it/it/product/RBC17/cartuccia-batteria-di-ricambio-apc-n-17-con-2-anni-di-garanzia/

Grazie, ora so meglio cosa andare a cercare alla prossima batteria da
cambiare. Ma quindi è consigliabile mettere sempre batterie da 9Ah sugli
UPS APC anche se la batteria originale è da 7Ah?

Piviul

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Il Thu, May 16, 2024 at 08:56:37AM +0200, Piviul ha scritto:

On 5/15/24 23:49, Paride Desimone wrote:

Il 15 maggio 2024 12:07:15 UTC, Piviul <[email protected]> ha scritto:

On 5/14/24 11:59, MAURIZI Lorenzo wrote:

Scusate sono un po' rimasto indietro nel thread...

Comunque, per rispondere ad una domanda di Piviul di 20 messaggi fa... Nel 99% dei casi io ho sempre trovato, negli UPS che ho avuto sotto mano, batterie da 12V 9Ah e contatti Faston da 6.3mm.
Nel caso della FIAMM, il modello esatto è 12FGHL34.

veramente a me sembra che le batterie APC siano a 7Ah, sei sicuro che vadano bene anche le 9Ah?

Piviul

Sono da 9Ah

Ho verificato, abbiamo ragione tutti e due, dipende dai modelli:

https://www.apc.com/it/it/product/APCRBC110/cartucce-batterie-di-sostituzione-apc-n-110-con-2-anni-di-garanzia/
https://www.apc.com/it/it/product/RBC17/cartuccia-batteria-di-ricambio-apc-n-17-con-2-anni-di-garanzia/

Grazie, ora so meglio cosa andare a cercare alla prossima batteria da cambiare. Ma quindi è consigliabile mettere sempre batterie da 9Ah sugli UPS APC anche se la batteria originale è da 7Ah?

No, è sempre meglio mettere batterie ad alta corrente di scarica, ovvero
"C", ma questo parametro, abbastanza facilmente reperibile per le
batterie al Litio, per le batterie al piombo non è facile da trovare, o
almeno io sui datasheet delle batterie non l'ho trovato, per cui ti
"fidi" del fatto che le batterie siano marcate per UPS e non per
alimentare lampade di emergenza che consumano 100 volte di meno...

Alla fine io ho sempre preso batterie APC per evitare "sole" che mi sono capitate purtroppo...

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