I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
all over the place. Examples:

kmail: 22.08.2
konsole: 22.08.1
okular: 22.04.3
and etc.

So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.

Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

Thanks!

Shmerl.

<div dir="ltr"><div>I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are</div><div>all over the place. Examples:</div><div><br></div><div>kmail: 22.08.2</div><div>konsole: 22.08.1</div><div>okular: 22.04.3</div><div></div><div>and etc.</div><

<br></div><div>So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Why aren&#39;t KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of</div><div>applications at once for all of them to have the same version?</div><div><br></div><
Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Shmerl.<br> </div></div>

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Shmerl ha scritto:

I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
all over the place. Examples:

kmail: 22.08.2
konsole: 22.08.1
okular: 22.04.3
and etc.

So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.

Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those programs are part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software which is released together, but it doesn't automatically imply a dependency between the various applications. There may be some (for example, all bits which mades KDE PIM)
but that's not the general rule, so they can be updated separately.

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Luigi

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Yeah, I get that they don't always depend on each other,
but it's more about keeping them up to date in the repos.

I thought it might be easier to upload them all at once,
that's why I was asking about methodology of updating
them in Debian.

Shmerl.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:59 PM Luigi Toscano <[email protected]>
wrote:

I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those programs are
part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software which is released together, but it doesn't automatically imply a dependency between the
various
applications. There may be some (for example, all bits which mades KDE PIM) but that's not the general rule, so they can be updated separately.

<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Yeah, I get that they don&#39;t always depend on each other,</div><div>but it&#39;s more about keeping them up to date in the repos.</div><div><br></div><div>I thought it might be easier to upload them all at once,</div>
<div>that&#39;s why I was asking about methodology of updating<br></div><div>them in Debian.</div><div><br></div><div>Shmerl.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:59 PM Luigi Toscano &lt;<
a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I can&#39;t speak for the maintainers, but
please consider that those programs are<br>
part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software which is released<br> together, but it doesn&#39;t automatically imply a dependency between the various<br>
applications. There may be some (for example, all bits which mades KDE PIM)<br> but that&#39;s not the general rule, so they can be updated separately.<br> </blockquote></div></div>

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Hej,

Am Freitag, 4. November 2022, 20:47:41 CET schrieb Shmerl:

I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
all over the place. Examples:

kmail: 22.08.2
konsole: 22.08.1
okular: 22.04.3
and etc.

So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.

Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

In short, lack of manpower.

We've automated the packaging of the Frameworks, Plasma and PIM for the
most part, but Gear isn't quite there yet for various reasons.

If you're interested in getting everything up-to-date, feel free to join
the effort.


--
Med vänliga hälsningar

Patrick Franz

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Luigi Toscano - 04.11.22, 21:58:58 CET:

Shmerl ha scritto:

I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
all over the place. Examples:

kmail: 22.08.2
konsole: 22.08.1
okular: 22.04.3
and etc.

So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.

Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those
programs are part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software
which is released together, but it doesn't automatically imply a
dependency between the various applications. There may be some (for
example, all bits which mades KDE PIM) but that's not the general
rule, so they can be updated separately.

Additionally the version numbers of all apps are updated on each KDE
Gear release, no matter whether there have been changes to them.

That written for Okular for example I expect changes on every major KDE
Gear release.

Also it can happen that for some reason a package needs to go through
NEW again and approved by ftpmasters.

Thanks,
--
Martin

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