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  • Qt 6.8.2 incoming

    From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 1 12:50:01 2025
    Hi!

    As usual please take care.

    Parts of Plasma 6.3.2 is mostly available, some parts like kwin with fix
    for a rare 100% CPU hang issue I have seen on two laptops are still
    missing.

    Idea is to get in Qt 6.8.2 quickly, but it will take some time for the
    build servers to do their job. Also there are dependencies which need to
    be rebuilt against new Qt.

    Thanks to Patrick and everyone else involved!

    Best,
    --
    Martin - please no carbon copy to me

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  • From Antonio Russo@21:1/5 to Martin Steigerwald on Sun Mar 2 15:40:01 2025
    On 2025-03-01 04:49, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
    Also there are dependencies which need to
    be rebuilt against new Qt.

    src:kwin is uninstallable because it needs to be rebuilt [1], but is failing
    to satisfy its build dependencies [2], in turn because src:layer-shell-qt
    needs to also be rebuilt against the new qt6-base-private-abi [3].

    I'm trying to understand how to navigate the buildd status website [4], but
    the output there is confusing to me: why isn't kwin listed as BD-uninstallable? Also, why isn't layer-shell-qt anywhere on that list (specifically as needs-build,
    maybe)? I similarly don't see anything in [5].

    I.e., isn't [6] the wanna-build [7] state of layer-shell-qt? The documentation for the "needs-build" state is a little confusing, but--naively--I would have thought that layer-shell-qt should be marked as "needs-build".

    Is there some manual action that needs to be taken there? If not, is there some other status page that indicates the status of the auto-rebuild?

    Thanks to Patrick and everyone else involved!
    Indeed, thanks!

    Best,
    Antonio

    [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kwin
    [2] https://qa.debian.org/dose/debcheck/src_unstable_main/latest/packages/kwin.html#333c8ba1bb4ca3cec7f97fad95d06a3e
    [3] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/layer-shell-qt
    [4] https://buildd.debian.org/status/architecture.php?a=amd64&suite=sid
    [5] https://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd/pool/main/l/layer-shell-qt/
    [6] https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=layer-shell-qt&suite=sid
    [7] https://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/
    [8] https://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/wanna-build-states

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  • From Andrey Rakhmatullin@21:1/5 to Antonio Russo on Sun Mar 2 15:50:02 2025
    On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 07:12:31AM -0700, Antonio Russo wrote:
    src:kwin is uninstallable

    Not sure which binary packages you actually wanted to mention here but at least kwin-x11 is installable.

    because it needs to be rebuilt [1]

    It doesn't say that though? Unless you run riscv64.

    in turn because src:layer-shell-qt
    needs to also be rebuilt against the new qt6-base-private-abi [3].

    No? That link doesn't say that?

    I'm trying to understand how to navigate the buildd status website [4], but >the output there is confusing to me: why isn't kwin listed as BD-uninstallable?

    Because they are installable and it was built successfully?

    Also, why isn't layer-shell-qt anywhere on that list (specifically as needs-build,
    maybe)?

    Because it was also built successfully?

    I similarly don't see anything in [5].

    It's in sid for 2 days already?

    I.e., isn't [6] the wanna-build [7] state of layer-shell-qt?

    Yes.

    The documentation
    for the "needs-build" state is a little confusing, but--naively--I would have >thought that layer-shell-qt should be marked as "needs-build".

    It was already built?

    Is there some manual action that needs to be taken there?

    No? Why?

    If not, is there
    some other status page that indicates the status of the auto-rebuild?

    Either I'm missing something very obvious, or you are missing something
    very obvious, or maybe you composed this email e.g. several days ago and
    sent it only now? Can you please explain in details what do you think is
    not rebuilt and where do those pages say that? Thanks.

    --
    WBR, wRAR

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  • From Andrey Rakhmatullin@21:1/5 to Andrey Rakhmatullin on Sun Mar 2 16:00:01 2025
    On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 07:48:08PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
    On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 07:12:31AM -0700, Antonio Russo wrote:
    src:kwin is uninstallable

    Not sure which binary packages you actually wanted to mention here but
    at least kwin-x11 is installable.

    If you meant it's removed when you upgrade Qt6 to 6.8.2 and were trying to
    ask about the Qt6 transition status then you can track it at https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qt6base-abi-6.8.2.html and you shouldn't expect everything to be rebuilt at once, or even marked as
    needing a rebuild, because transition binNMUs are scheduled in stages
    based on the dependency levels. But I don't see how anything else in your email is related to that, so I'm still confused.


    --
    WBR, wRAR

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  • From Antonio Russo@21:1/5 to Andrey Rakhmatullin on Sun Mar 2 16:40:01 2025
    On 2025-03-02 07:53, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
    On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 07:48:08PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
    On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 07:12:31AM -0700, Antonio Russo wrote:
    src:kwin is uninstallable

    Not sure which binary packages you actually wanted to mention here but at least kwin-x11 is installable.

    kwin-x11 is not installable in sid. I'll list out the dependency chains:

    0. kwin-x11 (4:6.3.2.1-1)
    1. libkdecorations3-6 (>= 4:6.3.2~)
    2. libqt6core6t64 (>= 6.8.2)

    BUT ALSO:

    0. kwin-x11 (4:6.3.2.1-1)
    1. qt6-base-private-abi (= 6.7.2)
    - only valid package is libqt6core6t64 (6.7.2+dfsg-6)

    So, kwin-x11 requires both
    - libqt6core6t64 (6.7.2+dfsg-6)
    - libqt6core6t64 (>= 6.8.2)

    Which is obviously unsatisfiable. This is with the current dinstall as of:

    Sun Mar 02 14:42:33 UTC 2025 (1740926553)

    Are you saying that kwin-x11 is installable for you in sid? What version of kwin-x11 are you seeing
    in the archive right now? What version of libkdecorations3-6?

    If you meant it's removed when you upgrade Qt6 to 6.8.2 and were trying to ask about the Qt6 transition status then you can track it at https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qt6base-abi-6.8.2.html and you shouldn't expect everything to be rebuilt
    at once, or even marked as needing a rebuild, because transition binNMUs are scheduled in stages based on the dependency levels.

    That link is what I was looking for, thank you.

    I also obviously do not blindly remove packages that become uninstallable during typical sid package churn.

    But I don't see how anything else in your email is related to that, so I'm still confused.

    Hopefully walking through the dependency chain helped you out there. Alternatively,
    using the very helpful link you sent, its clear that the transition is still in progress, as well as what obstacles might be blocking the rebuild progress.


    Thank you!
    Antonio

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  • From Andrey Rakhmatullin@21:1/5 to Antonio Russo on Sun Mar 2 16:50:01 2025
    On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 08:19:13AM -0700, Antonio Russo wrote:
    Are you saying that kwin-x11 is installable for you in sid? What version of kwin-x11 are you seeing
    in the archive right now? What version of libkdecorations3-6?

    I've already realized my mistake: kwin-x11 is installable for me because I haven't upgraded Qt6 (because that would uninstall KDE).


    --
    WBR, wRAR

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  • From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 09:10:01 2025
    Martin Steigerwald - 01.03.25, 12:49:06 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit:
    Idea is to get in Qt 6.8.2 quickly, but it will take some time for the
    build servers to do their job. Also there are dependencies which need to
    be rebuilt against new Qt.

    One machine updated just nicely. Others will follow, but more in the late afternoon time.

    Thanks for bringing Qt 6.8.2 in, in time for Trixie!

    Best,
    --
    Martin - please no carbon copy to me

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  • From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 21:50:02 2025
    Sedat Dilek - 04.03.25, 21:32:59 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit:
    On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 9:00 AM Martin Steigerwald <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    Martin Steigerwald - 01.03.25, 12:49:06 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit:
    […]
    One machine updated just nicely. Others will follow, but more in the
    late afternoon time.

    Thanks, Martin, for all the hints.

    You are welcome.

    Here, adduser causes some CRITICAL post-installation problems with dbus-system-bus-common, colord, etc.

    https://bugs.debian.org/1099470

    Workaround:

    root# apt install adduser=3.137 -y --allow-downgrades

    Thanks for this.

    What often comes in handy in such cases:

    Use apt-listbugs. Usually I just let it pin the packages in case I think
    it might be affecting me. It also unpins them automatically again once the
    bug is closed.

    Of course if you are really quick with updating and an issue with severity
    of at least "serious" has not been reported, you still get to keep the
    bug.

    apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges are two tools I'd install on every unstable/testing machine.

    Best,
    --
    Martin - please no carbon copy to me

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