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From MERLIN Philippe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 17:20:01 2025

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Hello,
Since the latest plasma updates when opening sddm (X11) a virtual
keyboard that I never requested appears in the foreground hiding the
sddm screen it is very annoying, I thought that this problem was
temporary I did not react.
I use sddm-maui I tried with other login screens same problem.
During my tests I realized that many of the available connection
screens no longer worked (ark-dusk, chili for plasma...) The current
choices seem to be very limited.
Should I file a bug report or can someone give me a solution to
resolve this problem?
Thank you.
Philippe Merlin

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<body>Hello,
Since the latest plasma updates when opening sddm (X11) a virtual keyboard that I never requested appears in the foreground hiding the sddm screen it is very annoying, I thought that
this problem was temporary I did not react. 
I use sddm-maui I tried with other login screens same problem. During my tests I realized that many of the available connection screens no longer worked (ark-dusk, chili for plasma...)
The current choices seem to be very limited.
Should I file a bug report or can someone give me a solution to resolve this problem?
Thank you.
Philippe Merlin
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From Helge Reimer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 18:00:02 2025

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 17:17:56 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

Should I file a bug report or can someone give me a solution to
resolve this problem?

There is a symbol with a downward arrow on the virtual keyboard. This allows you to hide the keyboard.
Have you tried this and is the keyboard in the foreground again the next time you start SDDM?

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Gruß
Helge

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From MERLIN Philippe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 18:50:03 2025

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Le lundi 17 février 2025, 17:55:32 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 17:17:56 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

Should I file a bug report or can someone give me a solution to
resolve this problem?

There is a symbol with a downward arrow on the virtual keyboard. This

allows

you to hide the keyboard.
Have you tried this and is the keyboard in the foreground again the next
time you start SDDM?

Yes I do each time but the virtual keybord reappears always at restart.
Thanks.
Philippe Merlin

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<body>Le lundi 17 février 2025, 17:55:32 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :
> Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 17:17:56 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:
> > Should I file a bug report or can someone give me a solution to
> > resolve this problem?
> > There is a symbol with a downward arrow on the virtual keyboard. This allows
> you to hide the keyboard.
> Have you tried this and is the keyboard in the foreground again the next
> time you start SDDM?
Yes I do each time but the virtual keybord reappears always at restart.
Thanks.
Philippe Merlin
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From MERLIN Philippe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 20:00:02 2025

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Le lundi 17 février 2025, 19:22:53 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 18:35:38 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

Yes I do each time but the virtual keybord reappears always at restart. Thanks.

Please show your /etc/sddm.conf.d/kde_settings.conf.

Here.
kde_settings.conf
[Autologin]
Relogin=false
Session=
User=

[General]
HaltCommand=/bin/systemctl poweroff
RebootCommand=/bin/systemctl reboot

[Theme]
Current=maui
CursorTheme=breeze_cursors
Font=Noto Sans,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0

[Users]
MaximumUid=60000
MinimumUid=0

[X11]
ServerArguments=-dpi 0

Philippe Merlin

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<body>Le lundi 17 février 2025, 19:22:53 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :
> Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 18:35:38 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:
> > Yes I do each time but the virtual keybord reappears always at restart.
> > Thanks.
> > Please show your /etc/sddm.conf.d/kde_settings.conf.
Here. kde_settings.conf
[Autologin]
Relogin=false
Session=
User= [General]
HaltCommand=/bin/systemctl poweroff
RebootCommand=/bin/systemctl reboot
 [Theme]
Current=maui
CursorTheme=breeze_cursors
Font=Noto Sans,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
 [Users]
MaximumUid=60000
MinimumUid=0
 [X11]
ServerArguments=-dpi 0
 Philippe Merlin
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From Helge Reimer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 19:30:03 2025

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 18:35:38 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

Yes I do each time but the virtual keybord reappears always at restart. Thanks.

Please show your /etc/sddm.conf.d/kde_settings.conf.

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Gruß
Helge

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From Helge Reimer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 20:10:02 2025

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 19:52:49 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

Here.

Looks good actually.
Add 'InputMethod=' in the 'General' section and restart SDDM.

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Gruß
Helge

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From Helge Reimer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 21:50:01 2025

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 21:26:57 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

I have modify the file but the problem is still here :

what does 'echo $QT_IM_MODULE' say?

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Helge

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From MERLIN Philippe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 21:30:01 2025

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Le lundi 17 février 2025, 20:00:45 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 19:52:49 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

Here.

Looks good actually.
Add 'InputMethod=' in the 'General' section and restart SDDM.

I have modify the file but the problem is still here :
[Autologin]
Relogin=false
Session=
User=

[General]
HaltCommand=/bin/systemctl poweroff
RebootCommand=/bin/systemctl reboot
InputMethod=

[Theme]
Current=maui
CursorTheme=breeze_cursors
Font=Noto Sans,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0

[Users]
MaximumUid=60000
MinimumUid=0

[X11]
ServerArguments=-dpi 0
Thanks.
Philippe Merlin

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<body>Le lundi 17 février 2025, 20:00:45 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :
> Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 19:52:49 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:
> > Here.
> > Looks good actually.
> Add 'InputMethod=' in the 'General' section and restart SDDM.
I have modify the file but the problem is still here :
[Autologin]
Relogin=false
Session=
User= [General]
HaltCommand=/bin/systemctl poweroff
RebootCommand=/bin/systemctl reboot
InputMethod=
 [Theme]
Current=maui
CursorTheme=breeze_cursors
Font=Noto Sans,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
 [Users]
MaximumUid=60000
MinimumUid=0
 [X11]
ServerArguments=-dpi 0
Thanks.
Philippe Merlin
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From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 22:10:01 2025

Hi Philippe, hi.

MERLIN Philippe - 17.02.25, 17:17:56 MEZ:

Since the latest plasma updates when opening sddm (X11) a virtual
keyboard that I never requested appears in the foreground hiding the
sddm screen it is very annoying, I thought that this problem was
temporary I did not react.

[…]

Should I file a bug report or can someone give me a solution to
resolve this problem?

It is a known issue. I think it has been discussed on this list before,
but I do not recall the thread name at the moment.

AFAIR something was off with tablet detection, like in flipped around.

I found that I can just type in my password no matter whether that virtual keyboard is there or not.

You can of cause check whether the issue is reported on Debian bug tracker
and report it there in case there is no report yet. I think it would be
good to fix this issue before release of Debian 13 aka Trixie.

Best,
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Martin - please no carbon copy to me

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From Helge Reimer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 22:10:01 2025

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 21:56:30 MEZ schrieb Brad Rogers:

Removal of package qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin worked for me. I'm not
sure how it got installed - probably in a dependency chain.

That would have been my next question, whether 'qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin' or 'maliit-keyboard' is installed.
Then you could remove it. But that would be the sledgehammer method. I have 'qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin' installed and I have no problem.

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Helge

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From MERLIN Philippe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 22:10:02 2025

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Le lundi 17 février 2025, 21:44:34 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 21:26:57 MEZ schrieb MERLIN

Philippe:

I have modify the file but the problem is still here :

what does 'echo $QT_IM_MODULE' say?

echo $QT_IM_MODULE

ibus

Philippe Merlin

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<body>Le lundi 17 février 2025, 21:44:34 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :
> Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 21:26:57 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:
> > I have modify the file but the problem is still here :
> what does 'echo $QT_IM_MODULE' say?
 >echo $QT_IM_MODULE ibus Philippe Merlin
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From Helge Reimer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 22:20:01 2025

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 22:09:06 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

echo $QT_IM_MODULE

ibus

can you run 'ibus-setup'?

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Helge

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From MERLIN Philippe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 22:30:01 2025

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Le lundi 17 février 2025, 22:12:58 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 22:09:06 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

echo $QT_IM_MODULE

ibus

can you run 'ibus-setup'?

i remove the packet : qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin
and now no virtual keyboard appear at sddm start.
i run ibus-setup i don't see anything abnormal.
Philippe Merlin

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<body>Le lundi 17 février 2025, 22:12:58 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :
> Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 22:09:06 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:
> > >echo $QT_IM_MODULE
> > 
> > ibus
> > can you run 'ibus-setup'?
 i remove the packet : qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin
and now no virtual keyboard appear at sddm start.
i run ibus-setup i don't see anything abnormal.
Philippe Merlin
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From Helge Reimer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 22:40:01 2025

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 22:28:48 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

i remove the packet : qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin
and now no virtual keyboard appear at sddm start.
i run ibus-setup i don't see anything abnormal.
Philippe Merlin

that's nice for you, but still not normal.
Is 'maliit-keyboard' installed?

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Helge

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From Steven Robbins@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 14:48:36 2025

Hi,

Thanks Philippe for asking the question. This has been plaguing me for months!

On Monday, February 17, 2025 10:55:32 A.M. CST Helge Reimer wrote:

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 17:17:56 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

Should I file a bug report or can someone give me a solution to
resolve this problem?

There is a symbol with a downward arrow on the virtual keyboard. This allows you to hide the keyboard.

Thanks, Helge for the hint. I hadn't found the button to remove it. My first instinct was the ESC key, but that did nothing.

Have you tried this and is the keyboard in the foreground again the next
time you start SDDM?

I hid the on-screen keyboard and rebooted, but it appeared again.

In a subsequent email you asked about /etc/sddm.conf.d/kde_settings.conf. I don't have this file on my system!

Strangely, I don't have any of the config locations described in the wiki. https://wiki.debian.org/SDDM

-Steve

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From Hefee@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 22:47:14 2025

Hey,

You can of cause check whether the issue is reported on Debian bug tracker and report it there in case there is no report yet. I think it would be
good to fix this issue before release of Debian 13 aka Trixie.

There are already two open bugreports:
https://bugs.debian.org/1095604
"sddm: no way to disable the virtual keyboard"

https://bugs.debian.org/1091343
"sddm started showing unneeded on-screen keyboard on a laptop"

"The default Plasma install uses sddm-theme-debian-breeze which correctly detects this condition and won’t show the virtual keyboard without a reason."

The takeaway is that not all sddm-themes detect table/laptop correctly.

Please retry with sddm-theme-debian-breeze and update the bugreports if you have any value.

Regards,

hefee

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From MERLIN Philippe@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 11:20:02 2025

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Le lundi 17 février 2025, 22:32:03 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :

Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 22:28:48 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:

that's nice for you, but still not normal.
Is 'maliit-keyboard' installed?

maliit-keyboard is not installed.
MiWiFi-R4CM-srv:~# dpkg -l|grep maliit-keyboard
MiWiFi-R4CM-srv:~#
Yes the solution of remove virtual... is not normal but !!!
it seems that the problem only concerns Breeze.
Philippe Merlin

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<body>Le lundi 17 février 2025, 22:32:03 UTC+1 Helge Reimer a écrit :
> Am Montag, 17. Februar 2025, 22:28:48 MEZ schrieb MERLIN Philippe:
 > 
> that's nice for you, but still not normal.
> Is 'maliit-keyboard' installed?
maliit-keyboard is not installed.
MiWiFi-R4CM-srv:~# dpkg -l|grep maliit-keyboard MiWiFi-R4CM-srv:~# Yes the solution of remove virtual... is not normal but !!!
it seems that the problem only concerns  Breeze. 
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