Hi,

Michael Tokarev <[email protected]> (2025-06-07):

Hm. Why it replaces /bin/wget? It shouldn't replace already existing
files, I'd say, and this needs to be fixed.

Yes, we've in d/rules:
dh_link -pbusybox-udeb \
$$(grep -v sbin/init $b/udeb/busybox.links | sed 's|^|/bin/busybox |')

So, when things are installed, busybox-udeb is unpacked first, and
this creates /bin/wget symlink. And next wget-udeb is unpacked,
which replaces /bin/wget with real executable. Or does wget-udeb
installs to /usr/bin/wget? Shouldn't dpkg complain if there's a
file conflict?

Build log:

Preparing to unpack udebs/wget-udeb.udeb ...
Unpacking wget-udeb (1.25.0-2) ...
dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
dpkg: warning: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/wget', which is also in package busybox-udeb (1:1.37.0-4)

The --force seems to be dating back 20+ years:

https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/-/commit/08dac4eff81a61421fe2f4358759c81ce2cf0ca8

Since I'm only seeing the override warning for wget (multiple times), at
least on amd64, it's tempting to remove the option and see whether daily
builds stay happy?

Oh, I don't think I've ever thought much about possible upgrades there… Ouch.

Most likely, yes. And it's been this way for years. I'm not sure
now is the right time to fix this.

Just agreeing to remove wget from busybox is fine with me.

Yes, plus the other WGET-related stuff has to be turned off too.

I prepared this change, it's trivial to remove wget applet, but I'd
love to understand how it all worked before.

Out of curiosity, what is “other WGET-related stuff”? I'm happy for you
to clean things up, as long as we don't break other things. :)


Cheers,
--
Cyril Brulebois ([email protected]) <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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On 07.06.2025 23:40, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
..

Yes, plus the other WGET-related stuff has to be turned off too.

I prepared this change, it's trivial to remove wget applet, but I'd
love to understand how it all worked before.

Out of curiosity, what is “other WGET-related stuff”? I'm happy for you to clean things up, as long as we don't break other things. :)

I just pushed a commit to salsa. Wich removes CONFIG_WGET and 3 CONFIG_FEATURE_WGET_* options.

Should I upload another busybox release, or can we wait a bit more
for maybe other stuff to show up?

Thanks,

/mjt

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On Sat, 7 Jun 2025, Jörn Heissler wrote:

* Not everyone uses https. I think I've only been doing it for the last
two years.
* Often, bugs aren't reported.

I know I have run into the message about busybox wget not supporting
https, though not during installation (for which I normally used an
http:// mirror), but by typing something like…

wget -O /dev/urandom https://example.org/random-bits.cgi

… and just assumed that this was deliberate. Glad to see it’s not.

This was with the netinst images, mostly, though much longer ago than oldstable.

bye,
//mirabilos
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mksh auf jedem System zu installieren.“
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