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  • Trixie: closing in

    From Cyril Brulebois@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 2 20:30:01 2024
    Hi Holger,

    Again, thanks for driving a number of discussions and changes over the
    last few months, esp. on the partitioning side.

    I would like to check with you whether some big changes are pending, or
    whether things are settling down. It looks like the latter at the moment
    but maybe I've missed some big things going on.

    If we're entering a quieter period (after the 64-bit time_t transition, partition-related changes, what to do about armel/i386, etc.), the next question would be what the l10n side looks like. Publishing a release
    means computing translation stats to decide whether to issue a warning
    at the beginning of the installation process (basically “translation in [language] is incomplete, are you sure you want to continue?”) and I
    would really love to avoid having that pop up in as many languages as
    possible.

    With the let's say “technical upload” a few weeks back (to clear the
    path for Steve's work), we lost 42 “5 F” languages. I see[1] that we
    have a lot of translation work to release already, so I'll look into
    that next. I'm not sure whether it would make sense to issue a call
    for translations before everything already pending is merged, or if
    we should just wait for those packages to get uploaded, migrated into
    testing, before computing translation stats again.

    1. https://d-i.debian.org/translations.txt


    Other topics before a release include figuring out where we're at
    regarding Secure Boot, libx11[2] issues (which will require at least
    a fix plus rebuilds).

    2. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2024/11/msg00002.html


    Cheers,
    --
    Cyril Brulebois ([email protected]) <https://debamax.com/>
    D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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  • From Holger Wansing@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 2 21:30:01 2024
    Hello,

    Am 2. November 2024 20:24:25 MEZ schrieb Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]>:
    Hi Holger,

    Again, thanks for driving a number of discussions and changes over the
    last few months, esp. on the partitioning side.

    I would like to check with you whether some big changes are pending, or >whether things are settling down. It looks like the latter at the moment
    but maybe I've missed some big things going on.

    There are some things going on on the partman front, however discussion
    is already done, so it's just a matter of implementing it.

    1.
    "Add legacy_boot flag support for arm64 recipes" <https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-auto/-/merge_requests/21>

    2.
    "Disable automatic use and forceful format of existing swaps" <https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-basicfilesystems/-/merge_requests/9>



    Another issue: I would like to push forward the blendsel topic
    for Trixie.
    However this waits for my dd application, but that stalled somewhat
    recently due to illness, holiday, real life and similar on both my and the
    AM side. Moreover, I realize that I lack some of the needed skills, so
    I'm unsure, if I will ever manage to bring that to success.
    Anyway, it would be good, to gain upload privileges for blendsel, to
    have the possibility, to push blendsel forward separately from my
    DD application.


    If we're entering a quieter period (after the 64-bit time_t transition, >partition-related changes, what to do about armel/i386, etc.), the next >question would be what the l10n side looks like. Publishing a release
    means computing translation stats to decide whether to issue a warning
    at the beginning of the installation process (basically “translation in >[language] is incomplete, are you sure you want to continue?”) and I
    would really love to avoid having that pop up in as many languages as >possible.

    With the let's say “technical upload” a few weeks back (to clear the
    path for Steve's work), we lost 42 “5 F” languages. I see[1] that we
    have a lot of translation work to release already, so I'll look into
    that next. I'm not sure whether it would make sense to issue a call
    for translations before everything already pending is merged, or if
    we should just wait for those packages to get uploaded, migrated into >testing, before computing translation stats again.

    1. https://d-i.debian.org/translations.txt

    I think there's no need to hold back an alpha/beta release
    because of translation status.
    I will issue a call for translation updates shortly, but don't wait for results IMO.


    Greets
    Holger


    --
    Sent from /e/ OS on Fairphone3

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  • From Cyril Brulebois@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 2 21:40:01 2024
    Hi,

    and thanks for the swift reply.

    Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2024-11-02):
    There are some things going on on the partman front, however discussion
    is already done, so it's just a matter of implementing it.

    1.
    "Add legacy_boot flag support for arm64 recipes" <https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-auto/-/merge_requests/21>

    2.
    "Disable automatic use and forceful format of existing swaps" <https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-basicfilesystems/-/merge_requests/9>

    Yeah, such things looked like isolated and targeted things, rather than
    a major overhaul for everyone.

    Another issue: I would like to push forward the blendsel topic for
    Trixie.

    Sure, I didn't think of mentioning it outright, but that's another thing
    that's on today's todo list.

    However this waits for my dd application, but that stalled somewhat
    recently due to illness, holiday, real life and similar on both my and
    the AM side.

    Oh, sad to hear that. Get better soon!

    Moreover, I realize that I lack some of the needed skills, so I'm
    unsure, if I will ever manage to bring that to success. Anyway, it
    would be good, to gain upload privileges for blendsel, to have the possibility, to push blendsel forward separately from my DD
    application.

    I couldn't act on the reject right away, but I totally agree that topic
    and your application are independent (even if I might have used one to
    push for the other one).

    Feel free to follow up separately (and/or privately) regarding skills
    etc.

    I think there's no need to hold back an alpha/beta release because of translation status. I will issue a call for translation updates
    shortly, but don't wait for results IMO.

    Noted, thanks. I think my decision is going to depend on what the stats
    look like after the round of uploads started minutes ago. :)


    Cheers,
    --
    Cyril Brulebois ([email protected]) <https://debamax.com/>
    D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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  • From Holger Wansing@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 2 23:00:01 2024
    Hi,

    Am 2. November 2024 21:32:23 MEZ schrieb Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]>:
    I couldn't act on the reject right away, but I totally agree that topic

    I have already cleared up the issue, which lead to the reject, so
    I think blendsel should be ready for upload.


    Holger


    and your application are independent (even if I might have used one to
    push for the other one).


    --
    Sent from /e/ OS on Fairphone3

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  • From Pascal Hambourg@21:1/5 to Holger Wansing on Sat Nov 2 23:20:01 2024
    Hi,

    On 02/11/2024 at 21:25, Holger Wansing wrote:

    There are some things going on on the partman front, however discussion
    is already done, so it's just a matter of implementing it.

    FWIW I just opened two more MRs for partman-auto.
    Removal of grub-legacy support from grub-installer is still pending
    Steve's review.
    And I have a number of other fixes and improvements I would like to submit.

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