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  • Regression for 11.10 (was: d-i for 12.6 and 11.10)

    From Cyril Brulebois@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 19:40:01 2024
    Hi,

    (I'm taking the liberty of keeping the initial quote even if that
    wasn't a public conversation, hopefully that's OK…)

    Adam D. Barratt <[email protected]> (2024-06-23):
    Just a quick note to say that we've closed upload processing for both
    of next weekend's point releases. Everything that might be needed for
    the d-i builds should be in place already from the p-u side. Please
    feel free to go ahead at a convenient point.

    I'm afraid I have bad news regarding the graphical installer for
    bullseye: once past ISOLINUX in BIOS mode, the screen goes black, and
    stays black. Pressing any key makes the language selection screen pop
    up out of the shadows anyway, but what a terrible user experience… we
    *might* be able to accept (and document) the regression, but I would
    prefer *not* to do that…

    The same happens after GRUB2 in UEFI mode.

    That doesn't seem to be something about timings, as pressing a key
    repeatedly from the get-go gives an image almost immediately (so that
    shouldn't be something like getrandom again)…

    https://debamax.com/blog/2018/05/25/debugging-black-screen-in-debian-installer/

    I'm seeing this with netboot-gtk's mini.iso, and *not* with the 20210731+deb11u10 one, so this isn't just something about my QEMU
    setup.

    I'm not seeing this with netboot's mini.iso, so usual suspects would
    be the GTK stack, the X stack, and the kernel.

    I haven't tested on baremetal yet. But even I can only replicate it
    within QEMU, it would make sense to figure out where this is coming
    from, and whether that can be avoided with some fix or workaround.


    Adam, what timeframe are you comfortable with, to give me some time to
    figure that out? (i.e. d-i/bullseye must be uploaded before ___?)


    Cheers,
    --
    Cyril Brulebois ([email protected]) <https://debamax.com/>
    D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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  • From Cyril Brulebois@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 22:00:01 2024
    Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> (2024-06-24):
    I'm not seeing this with netboot's mini.iso, so usual suspects would
    be the GTK stack, the X stack, and the kernel.

    Instead: Have you tried turning kibi off and on again?

    Sorry for the PEBCAK and the heightened blood pressure.

    d-i/bullseye on its way.


    Cheers,
    --
    Cyril Brulebois ([email protected]) <https://debamax.com/>
    D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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  • From Adam D. Barratt@21:1/5 to Cyril Brulebois on Mon Jun 24 21:30:01 2024
    Hi,

    On Mon, 2024-06-24 at 19:30 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
    I'm afraid I have bad news regarding the graphical installer for
    bullseye: once past ISOLINUX in BIOS mode, the screen goes black, and
    stays black. Pressing any key makes the language selection screen pop
    up out of the shadows anyway, but what a terrible user experience… we *might* be able to accept (and document) the regression, but I would
    prefer *not* to do that…

    Bah. :-(

    Adam, what timeframe are you comfortable with, to give me some time
    to figure that out? (i.e. d-i/bullseye must be uploaded before ___?)

    I think we could stretch to Wednesday evening if need be, but much
    beyond that would start to get difficult with having to go through the
    dini cycle as well and get the prep work out the way.

    Thanks for letting us know and for your work on this so far.

    Regards,

    Adam

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  • From Adam D. Barratt@21:1/5 to Cyril Brulebois on Mon Jun 24 23:10:01 2024
    On Mon, 2024-06-24 at 21:55 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
    Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> (2024-06-24):
    I'm not seeing this with netboot's mini.iso, so usual suspects
    would
    be the GTK stack, the X stack, and the kernel.

    Instead: Have you tried turning kibi off and on again?

    Sorry for the PEBCAK and the heightened blood pressure.

    Are there more bugs that we can fix by rebooting kibis?

    Thanks for the update and the quick turnaround.

    Regards,

    Adam

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  • From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to Cyril Brulebois on Mon Jun 24 23:20:01 2024
    On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 09:55:10PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
    Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> (2024-06-24):
    I'm not seeing this with netboot's mini.iso, so usual suspects would
    be the GTK stack, the X stack, and the kernel.

    Instead: Have you tried turning kibi off and on again?

    Sorry for the PEBCAK and the heightened blood pressure.

    d-i/bullseye on its way.

    Go, what went wrong?

    We're all intrigued now :-)

    --
    Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. [email protected] There's no sensation to compare with this
    Suspended animation, A state of bliss

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  • From Philip Hands@21:1/5 to Steve McIntyre on Wed Jun 26 11:10:02 2024
    Steve McIntyre <[email protected]> writes:

    On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 09:55:10PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
    Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> (2024-06-24):
    I'm not seeing this with netboot's mini.iso, so usual suspects would
    be the GTK stack, the X stack, and the kernel.

    Instead: Have you tried turning kibi off and on again?

    Sorry for the PEBCAK and the heightened blood pressure.

    d-i/bullseye on its way.

    Go, what went wrong?

    We're all intrigued now :-)

    BTW do such pre-release, point release images get produced automatically somewhere? If so, it would probably be worth throwing them at openQA to
    see if we can catch such regressions automatically (when they do happen).

    As it happens I'm on a train to Nürnberg today, in order to attend
    openSUSE24 and talk to people about openQA. :-)

    Anyway, if the images get produced already, I think it would be worth
    doing the plumbing to get them tested, and if not we should probably do
    both. I might be a bit busy with the conference to do anything about it
    before the weekend, but next week should be fine.

    Cheers, Phil.
    --
    Philip Hands -- https://hands.com/~phil

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