On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 10:12:09AM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

Am 27. August 2023 08:48:20 MESZ schrieb Holger Wansing:

Hi,

I noticed that the link to the daily built netinst image for i386 is "Not found" currently:
<https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/>
on <https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html>

The directory is not existing.

Is this a known issue?

Ah, sorry.

[1]

By accident I found a bug against release-notes, which documents that
i386 d-i images will be dropped for trixie. <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1036358>

So, sorry for the noise.

No worries (and [1] )

OTOH I would then remove the i386 link from <https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html>
now?

Please do.
If you can't, file a bugreport against pseudo package 'www.debian.org'.
( https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages )

Holger

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Geert Stappers

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Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> wrote (Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:54 +0200):

Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2023-08-27):

So no more netinst images,

And any other sections about CD, DVD, etc. must go.

but the "Other images" section will stay (netboot images, hd-media
...)?

Right, only that one stays.

I have prepared a patch with this changings.

@kibi:
Since this file has
"# This file should only be updated by a D-I release manager."
at its top:
do you want to commit it or do a proofreading?


Holger

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diff --git a/english/devel/debian-installer/images.data b/english/devel/debian-installer/images.data
index 499bce27778..ef84b9ba483 100644
--- a/english/devel/debian-installer/images.data
+++ b/english/devel/debian-installer/images.data
@@ -3,136 +3,136 @@
# This file should only be updated by a D-I release manager.

#include wml::debian::installer
<bind-gettext-domain domain="cdimage" />

# Release name
<define-tag release-name>bookworm</define-tag>
# Version
<define-tag version>rc4</define-tag>
<define-tag shortversion>rc4</define-tag>
<define-tag humanversion>Bookworm RC 4</define-tag>

# Has Alpha 1 happened already during this release cycle? (yes/no)
<set-var testing-installer-released="no" />

# If arches are added here, then also comment them out for the
# devel-other-images tag below
<define-tag daily-broken-arches></define-tag>

<define-tag netinst-images>
-<images-list url="https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/<release-name />_di_<version />/@ARCH@/iso-cd/debian-<release-name />-DI-<shortversion />-@[email protected]" arch="<strip-arches "<devel-images-arches />" "s390 s390x source" />" />
+<images-

Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2023-08-28):

Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> wrote (Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:54 +0200):

Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2023-08-27):

So no more netinst images,

And any other sections about CD, DVD, etc. must go.

but the "Other images" section will stay (netboot images, hd-media
...)?

Right, only that one stays.

I have prepared a patch with this changings.

@kibi:
Since this file has
"# This file should only be updated by a D-I release manager."
at its top:
do you want to commit it or do a proofreading?

Thanks for the proposal, but I'm not sure this is the best way to do it.

I think editing i386 out of english/template/debian/installer.wml (devel
and trixie lists), and adding it manually in the netboot section would
be better? (Naturally it'll show up before or after the list, but that's
really an unimportant cosmetic issue that could be fixed by having an
extra sort-arches macro if one feels strongly about it.)


Cheers,
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Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2023-08-28):

There's already a mechanism for filtering archs here, so I'm not
sure, if inventing another method in parallel is an improvement.

That's really apples and oranges:
- s390x is here and is here to stay (I have no opinions regarding the
current exclusion/implementation though — in passing, s390 is long
gone even if it still appears…);
- i386 is in a weird state where it's going to be in the archive, with
d-i builds, without debian-cd builds.

It really does make sense to me to have both archs treated separately.


Cheers,
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Hi,

Am 28. August 2023 15:50:24 MESZ schrieb Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]>: >Thanks for the proposal, but I'm not sure this is the best way to do it.

I think editing i386 out of english/template/debian/installer.wml (devel
and trixie lists), and adding it manually in the netboot section would
be better? (Naturally it'll show up before or after the list, but that's >really an unimportant cosmetic issue that could be fixed by having an
extra sort-arches macro if one feels strongly about it.)

There's already a mechanism for filtering archs here, so I'm not sure, if inventing another method in parallel is an improvement.


Holger


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Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2023-08-30):

So you mean a changing like attached...

I'm so sorry, I had assumed the other image section was built using a
loop on devel image list, that's why I thought we'd need an addition
there. Since that's using an hardcoded list of download links, no need
to change that, and the single change required is adjusting devel and
trixie images list?


Cheers,
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D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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Hi,

Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> wrote (Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:33:08 +0200):

Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2023-08-30):

So you mean a changing like attached...

I'm so sorry, I had assumed the other image section was built using a
loop on devel image list, that's why I thought we'd need an addition
there. Since that's using an hardcoded list of download links, no need
to change that, and the single change required is adjusting devel and
trixie images list?

Done. https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/commit/b943a80cdd64fe6421d841054d7fae8fc0768ede


BTW: mipsel CD (netinst) images are no longer being built apparently?
Can they be removed as well?
The netboot images for mipsel seem to stay, as it is for i386?


Holger


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On Tue, Sep 05, 2023 at 09:53:38PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

Hi,

Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> wrote (Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:33:08 +0200):

Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2023-08-30):

So you mean a changing like attached...

I'm so sorry, I had assumed the other image section was built using a
loop on devel image list, that's why I thought we'd need an addition
there. Since that's using an hardcoded list of download links, no need
to change that, and the single change required is adjusting devel and
trixie images list?

Done. >https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/commit/b943a80cdd64fe6421d841054d7fae8fc0768ede

BTW: mipsel CD (netinst) images are no longer being built apparently?
Can they be removed as well?

Yes.

The netboot images for mipsel seem to stay, as it is for i386?

No, mipsel is going away totally. We'll be killing it completely from
trixie, archive-wide.

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Steve McIntyre <[email protected]> (2023-09-05):

BTW: mipsel CD (netinst) images are no longer being built apparently?
Can they be removed as well?

Yes.

The netboot images for mipsel seem to stay, as it is for i386?

No, mipsel is going away totally. We'll be killing it completely from
trixie, archive-wide.

Both points just addressed:

To salsa.debian.org:webmaster-team/webwml.git
2583d3aa00b..e8f735936de HEAD -> master

If you look at the mipsel directory you'll only see old daily builds,
and they'll get pruned eventually. I'll adjust tooling and/or dillon
when I get a chance.

Thanks.


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