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    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 13:10:01 2022
    Hi all,


    Please have a look at this thread on the BunsenLabs forum regarding the bullseyes installer not detecting the cdrom while installing a new debian distro (BunsenLabs obviously) from and SD card:

    https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=123929#p123929
    I suspect you are probably already aware of the issue...

    Thanks for your hard hard, rest assured it is really appreciated.
    Best regards
    ben

    <html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>Please have a look at this thread on the BunsenLabs forum
    regarding the bullseyes installer not detecting the cdrom while installing a new debian distro (BunsenLabs obviously) from and SD card:<br></div><div>https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=123929#p123929</div><div>I suspect you are probably
    already aware of the issue...<br></div><div>Thanks for your hard hard, rest assured it is really appreciated.</div><div>Best regards</div><div>ben<br></div></div></body></html>

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  • From Geert Stappers@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 5 14:50:01 2022
    On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 12:48:54PM +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    Hi all,


    Please have a look at this thread on the BunsenLabs forum regarding
    the bullseyes installer not detecting the cdrom while installing a
    new debian distro (BunsenLabs obviously) from and SD card:

    https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=123929#p123929



    As I understood it:

    ISO image
    booting from non-CD-ROM-device ( e.g. thumb-drive SD-card)
    boot is succesfull, debian-installer being started
    d-i finds "I'm a ISO image"
    d-i goes looking for CD-ROM-device
    the CD-ROM-device is NOT found

    The issue has "solutions" as

    mount the_actual_device /cdrom


    I think the real solution is using "HDD imsage".
    (Or doing a netboot install)

    So not using an image that is expecting a CD-ROM-device.


    I suspect you are probably already aware of the issue...

    (-:

    Let me fill in the dots:

    Scott Adams, Robert Greene and others have it documented.


    :-)

    Joking aside:
    I don't know if "ISO image" has source code like

    If
    CD-ROM-device not found
    then
    register the attempt
    try next reasonable alternative


    If
    reasonable alternative failed
    the
    register the attempt
    try other option


    If
    other option failed
    then
    Present user nice text which says something like

    Mismatch on expection
    for attempt in list of registered_attempts
    attempt has failed
    Retry another combination of install media and hardware


    # Continue
    Installation


    Thanks for your hard hard, rest assured it is really appreciated.

    In my best French: Logiciel libre c'est ne pas logiciel gratuit.


    My actual point: Do more as just suggesting


    Best regards
    ben

    No hard feelings


    Groeten
    Geert Stappers
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  • From Geert Stappers@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 5 17:40:01 2022
    On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 05:01:53PM +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    From: "Geert Stappers" <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 12:48:54PM +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    Please have a look at this thread on the BunsenLabs forum regarding
    the bullseyes installer not detecting the cdrom while installing a
    new debian distro (BunsenLabs obviously) from and SD card:

    https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=123929#p123929

    As I understood it:

    ISO image
    booting from non-CD-ROM-device ( e.g. thumb-drive SD-card)
    boot is succesfull, debian-installer being started
    d-i finds "I'm a ISO image"
    d-i goes looking for CD-ROM-device
    the CD-ROM-device is NOT found

    The issue has "solutions" as

    mount the_actual_device /cdrom


    I think the real solution is using "HDD imsage".
    (Or doing a netboot install)

    So not using an image that is expecting a CD-ROM-device.

    thanks for your answer - obviously still learning here; i like you detailed explanation

    thanks for the thanks


    Thanks for your hard hard, rest assured it is really appreciated.

    In my best French: Logiciel libre c'est ne pas logiciel gratuit.


    My actual point: Do more as just suggesting

    Such reporting how good are the non-CD-ROM-images.


    best regards
    ben



    Groeten
    Geert Stappers
    --
    Silence is hard to parse

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 5 17:20:01 2022
    Hi Geerts
    thanks for your answer - obviously still learning here; i like you detailed explanation
    best regards
    ben

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Geert Stappers" <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 October, 2022 2:48:59 PM
    Subject: Re: Debian installer improvement suggestion

    On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 12:48:54PM +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    Hi all,


    Please have a look at this thread on the BunsenLabs forum regarding
    the bullseyes installer not detecting the cdrom while installing a
    new debian distro (BunsenLabs obviously) from and SD card:

    https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=123929#p123929



    As I understood it:

    ISO image
    booting from non-CD-ROM-device ( e.g. thumb-drive SD-card)
    boot is succesfull, debian-installer being started
    d-i finds "I'm a ISO image"
    d-i goes looking for CD-ROM-device
    the CD-ROM-device is NOT found

    The issue has "solutions" as

    mount the_actual_device /cdrom


    I think the real solution is using "HDD imsage".
    (Or doing a netboot install)

    So not using an image that is expecting a CD-ROM-device.


    I suspect you are probably already aware of the issue...

    (-:

    Let me fill in the dots:

    Scott Adams, Robert Greene and others have it documented.


    :-)

    Joking aside:
    I don't know if "ISO image" has source code like

    If
    CD-ROM-device not found
    then
    register the attempt
    try next reasonable alternative


    If
    reasonable alternative failed
    the
    register the attempt
    try other option


    If
    other option failed
    then
    Present user nice text which says something like

    Mismatch on expection
    for attempt in list of registered_attempts
    attempt has failed
    Retry another combination of install media and hardware


    # Continue
    Installation


    Thanks for your hard hard, rest assured it is really appreciated.

    In my best French: Logiciel libre c'est ne pas logiciel gratuit.


    My actual point: Do more as just suggesting


    Best regards
    ben

    No hard feelings


    Groeten
    Geert Stappers
    --
    Silence is hard to parse

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