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  • Re: Accepted gnome-shell-extension-appindicator 60-1 (source) into unst

    From Simon McVittie@21:1/5 to Debian FTP Masters on Tue Jul 8 10:00:02 2025
    On Tue, 08 Jul 2025 at 01:04:26 +0000, Debian FTP Masters wrote:
    gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (60-1) unstable; urgency=medium
    .
    * New upstream release

    Is this a minimal bug-fix release that is intended for inclusion in
    trixie during hard freeze?

    If not, as per https://release.debian.org/trixie/freeze_policy.html
    please upload new upstream releases only to Ubuntu and/or experimental
    for now. Jeremy requested in https://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2025/05/msg00001.html that we
    mostly should not upload GNOME 49 to Debian right now, not even in experimental, to be able to use experimental as a staging area for
    possible trixie updates (although we did make an exception to that for glib2.0).

    Obviously it's too late for this particular package, and if we need an
    urgent bug fix before Debian 13.0, we'll have to version it as
    60+really59-1 or similar; but hopefully we won't need that for this
    particular package in practice, and by sending this message I'm hoping
    we can avoid a similar situation for GNOME packages that *do* need
    trixie updates.

    Thanks,
    smcv

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Jeremy_B=C3=ADcha?=@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 8 15:40:01 2025
    On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 9:51 AM Simon McVittie <[email protected]> wrote:
    Is this a minimal bug-fix release that is intended for inclusion in
    trixie during hard freeze?

    If not, as per https://release.debian.org/trixie/freeze_policy.html
    please upload new upstream releases only to Ubuntu and/or experimental
    for now. Jeremy requested in https://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2025/05/msg00001.html that we mostly should not upload GNOME 49 to Debian right now, not even in experimental, to be able to use experimental as a staging area for
    possible trixie updates (although we did make an exception to that for glib2.0).

    Obviously it's too late for this particular package, and if we need an
    urgent bug fix before Debian 13.0, we'll have to version it as
    60+really59-1 or similar; but hopefully we won't need that for this particular package in practice, and by sending this message I'm hoping
    we can avoid a similar situation for GNOME packages that *do* need
    trixie updates.

    I chatted with the other Ubuntu GNOME contributors and I believe we
    agree to avoid uploads to experimental during this stage of the
    freeze. That seems easier for everyone to understand and follow than
    making exceptions.

    I assume that once Debian 13 is released, we can use experimental for
    49.x uploads. I think for Debian 12, we tried to keep Unstable and
    Testing reserved for things that could plausibly land in Debian Stable
    until 12.1. If that makes sense to everyone, we could do that for
    13.1.

    Thank you,
    Jeremy Bícha

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  • From Marco Trevisan@21:1/5 to Simon McVittie on Tue Jul 8 16:30:01 2025
    Hi Simon,

    On lug 8 2025, at 9:50 am, Simon McVittie <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 08 Jul 2025 at 01:04:26 +0000, Debian FTP Masters wrote:
    gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (60-1) unstable; urgency=medium
    .
    * New upstream release

    Is this a minimal bug-fix release that is intended for inclusion in
    trixie during hard freeze?

    Yes, I actually meant to upload it to experimental, but for some reason
    I ended up doing it wrong to unstable.

    However... It's really just the same code that we had already in debian,
    but with patches applied instead, so it's no difference on core
    extension (there is a configuration page update though), however if we
    want to be conservative, I can do a fixup upload.

    If not, as per https://release.debian.org/trixie/freeze_policy.html
    please upload new upstream releases only to Ubuntu and/or experimental
    for now. Jeremy requested in https://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2025/05/msg00001.html that
    we
    mostly should not upload GNOME 49 to Debian right now, not even in experimental, to be able to use experimental as a staging area for
    possible trixie updates (although we did make an exception to that for glib2.0).

    Well my intention was experimental and I thought this was a good target
    being a place where there are no really updates in general.

    However, while I totally agree about not touching experimental on
    uploading, on salsa side I think we should still target debian/latest to
    what is ready for latest uploads, while other branches can be used for
    work targetting stable. Otherwise stacking experimental work in other
    branches makes things hard to reconciliate when the time comes.

    Obviously it's too late for this particular package, and if we need an
    urgent bug fix before Debian 13.0, we'll have to version it as
    60+really59-1 or similar; but hopefully we won't need that for this particular package in practice, and by sending this message I'm hoping
    we can avoid a similar situation for GNOME packages that *do* need
    trixie updates.

    Yeah, sure thing

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