Hi,

My workload is rather high and I don't really have spare capacity
currently to work on updating GNOME packages for Trixie. I'm letting
y'all know so that someone else can pick up these updates if wanted.

I generally think that we are in good shape for Debian 13. However,
most of the GNOME 48.2 updates listed on the tracker are good
candidates for unblock during this part of the Debian release cycle:

https://people.debian.org/~fpeters/gnome/debian-gnome-48-status.html

Exceptions are gjs, pygobject, tinysparql

The packaging work is easy for me; it's the time needed for the
unblock paperwork and testing that I am struggling with.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 13:54, Jeremy Bícha <[email protected]> wrote: >Hi,

My workload is rather high and I don't really have spare capacity
currently to work on updating GNOME packages for Trixie. I'm letting
y'all know so that someone else can pick up these updates if wanted.

I generally think that we are in good shape for Debian 13. However,
most of the GNOME 48.2 updates listed on the tracker are good
candidates for unblock during this part of the Debian release cycle:

https://people.debian.org/~fpeters/gnome/debian-gnome-48-status.html

Exceptions are gjs, pygobject, tinysparql

The packaging work is easy for me; it's the time needed for the
unblock paperwork and testing that I am struggling with.

I might have some time in the upcoming week,
but OTOH my studies are a bit stressful right now.
I'll look into this a bit, but I can't promise anything.

best,

werdahias

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On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 at 07:54:21 -0400, Jeremy B�cha wrote:

The packaging work is easy for me; it's the time needed for the
unblock paperwork and testing that I am struggling with.

If you can easily put them in experimental for further testing, someone
else could pick them up from there? (And that would give you a basis for
the Ubuntu updates that I assume you'll also want to do.)

I can try to find time for some review, testing and unblock paperwork.

smcv

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 9:17 AM Simon McVittie <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 at 07:54:21 -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:

The packaging work is easy for me; it's the time needed for the
unblock paperwork and testing that I am struggling with.

If you can easily put them in experimental for further testing, someone
else could pick them up from there? (And that would give you a basis for
the Ubuntu updates that I assume you'll also want to do.)

I can try to find time for some review, testing and unblock paperwork.

Yes, I can upload some things to experimental if that helps.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 9:29 AM Jeremy Bícha <[email protected]> wrote:

Yes, I can upload some things to experimental if that helps.

Simon and I filled out this page: https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome/TrixieUpdates

There is an opportunity for people interested in helping out with
Debian development to help with testing these updates. It is
relatively straightforward to file an unblock bug with the testing
you've done. Use reportbug release.debian.org and follow the
prompts.

To create the required debdiff, this is the workflow I use with the
ptyxis package as an example.

sudo apt install ubuntu-dev-tools (for the pull-debian-source helper) pull-debian-source ptyxis trixie
pull-debian-source ptyxis (specify experimental if needed)
debdiff ptyxis_48.3-1.dsc ptyxis_48.4-1.dsc > ptyxis_48.4-1.debdiff

Open the .debdiff file in your text editor to verify it looks ok and
attach it to your unblock bug. If you forget to attach it, just send a
followup email to the bug number with the attachment.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 at 12:39:33 -0400, Jeremy B�cha wrote:

Simon and I filled out this page: https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome/TrixieUpdates

There is an opportunity for people interested in helping out with
Debian development to help with testing these updates. It is
relatively straightforward to file an unblock bug with the testing
you've done. Use reportbug release.debian.org and follow the
prompts.

We might need a bit of coordination to avoid more than one unblock
request for the same package. Let's use the wiki page - put your name
next to the packages you're working on before you spend significant time
on them, or remove your name to free them up for the next contributor
if you aren't able to make progress.

smcv

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On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 at 07:54:21 -0400, Jeremy B�cha wrote:

My workload is rather high and I don't really have spare capacity
currently to work on updating GNOME packages for Trixie. I'm letting
y'all know so that someone else can pick up these updates if wanted.

On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 at 14:17:19 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:

I can try to find time for some review, testing and unblock paperwork.

I have been trying to do this, but there's a lot, and I am not going to
be able to do all of it. Other GNOME team members or those with an
interest in our default desktop environment: please help! I can't do
this alone.

In particular, I am **NOT** going to do stable updates for the Evolution family. I don't routinely use these applications and neither do the
users I support, so I am not sufficiently familiar with them to know
where extra care is needed.

Similarly, I am unlikely to touch gnome-online-accounts any time soon.
If someone who knows about Microsoft account integration wants #1100711
to happen for trixie, they will have to take responsibility for that - I
don't routinely use Microsoft online services, and I don't know whether
the Passport account that I used to use for MSNP is even still valid.

I'm also unlikely to do anything with gnome-user-share or the multimedia
family (grilo, gssdp, gupnp and so on).

The release team is now discussing going into full freeze [1] so there
will presumably be a higher bar for updates getting into 13.0 from now
on. Please be extra-careful with updates that could have implications
for other packages, and if in doubt, upload them to experimental.

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2025/07/msg00500.html

For updates that have been verified to be low-risk (especially in leaf packages), I think we can still go to unstable, but we need to be aware
that the "unblock" requests will need to turn into "trixie-pu" requests
for 13.1 if they don't make it into 13.0. For libraries - especially
pango1.0, but also libadwaita and libdex - we should be extra-careful
not to have an impact on their dependent packages, including
accidentally introducing a dependency on the new library.

smcv

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 13:52, Simon McVittie <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 at 07:54:21 -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:

My workload is rather high and I don't really have spare capacity
currently to work on updating GNOME packages for Trixie. I'm letting
y'all know so that someone else can pick up these updates if wanted.

On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 at 14:17:19 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:

I can try to find time for some review, testing and unblock paperwork.

I have been trying to do this, but there's a lot, and I am not going to
be able to do all of it. Other GNOME team members or those with an
interest in our default desktop environment: please help! I can't do
this alone.

thanks for your work.

In particular, I am **NOT** going to do stable updates for the
Evolution family. I don't routinely use these applications and neither
do the users I support, so I am not sufficiently familiar with them to
know where extra care is needed.

I don't use those either; so I won't be able to help there.

Similarly, I am unlikely to touch gnome-online-accounts any time soon.
If someone who knows about Microsoft account integration wants #1100711
to happen for trixie, they will have to take responsibility for that -
I don't routinely use Microsoft online services, and I don't know
whether the Passport account that I used to use for MSNP is even still
valid.

While I do not use any MS services I can look into getting this fix
backported once we have released. I am unavailable until August 1st
because of studying. IIRC a new library was written to help with that; I
can put it on my agenda for trixie-pu.

I'm also unlikely to do anything with gnome-user-share or the
multimedia family (grilo, gssdp, gupnp and so on).

Not really using those either.
I'll try to get the new glycin (1.2.2) + rust-zune-jpeg into -pu, too,
since that fixes a few JPEG issues with loupe.

best,

werdahias

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