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  • Re: Why for gnome-software, is gnome-software-plugin-deb listed twice?

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Jeremy_B=C3=ADcha?=@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Mar 30 14:20:02 2025
    On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 7:48 AM Zeke Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
    Thank you! It's a relief I can have flatpak and gnome-software
    together without dragging in functionality from packagekit. Why is it
    that debian 12 didn't have this? Design limitations or time
    limitations? I'm sure there was a reason, but I want to know more.

    I did not know it was possible to split the .deb handling parts out of gnome-software before the middle of 2023 which was too late for Debian
    12.

    Thank you,
    Jeremy Bícha

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Jeremy_B=C3=ADcha?=@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Mar 29 01:30:01 2025
    On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 7:10 AM Zeke Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
    Browsing through the packages pages on the debian website, I noticed
    that at https://packages.debian.org/trixie/gnome-software you'll find 'gnome-software-plugin-deb' listed twice. One as mandatory dep and
    again as rec. Why? It's confusing because I absolutely loathe using gnome-software for apt updates and would absolutely rather use it for
    flatpak packages only.

    That page is not giving you precise enough information about what the dependencies look like.

    gnome-software has
    Depends: gnome-software-plugin-deb | gnome-software-plugin

    where gnome-software-plugin is a virtual package provided by any of
    the separate gnome-software-plugin-* packages.

    gnome-software also has Recommends: gnome-software-plugin-deb so that
    the package is correctly installed for people upgrading from Debian
    12. I think for Debian 14 that we'll move this Recommends to gnome or gnome-core.

    gnome-software-plugin-deb is a separate package that can now be
    removed but this wasn't possible in Debian 12.

    Could it be possible in trixie to configure it to never use PackageKit
    and only for snap/flatpak packages? In addition, it uses appstream
    metadata for the packages and more often than not, graphical
    applications like firefox-esr is not searchable for the deb package,
    but you'll get results for the flatpak package.

    Yes, already answered above.

    Thank you,
    Jeremy Bícha

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