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On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 03:31, Jeremy Bícha <[email protected]> wrote: >Package: gnome-core

Version: 1:47+6
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I propose that we switch gnome-core to depend on papers instead of
evince for Debian Trixie.

Background
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Papers had its first release in May 2024. Papers was forked from
Evince after the Papers developers were frustrated that they were
unable to get their merge requests into Evince, particularly a switch
from gtk3 to gtk4 and a partial rewrite in Rust.

Since then, Evince has yet to switch to gtk4 even in its development
branch (despite merge requests being available). Evince has had much
less development than Papers: in number of contributors, number of
commits, and number of new features. My strongest argument to switch
is that Papers is better maintained.

Brief Feature Comparison
--------
- Papers generally has the same features as Evince.
- Papers does not support the DVI, PostScript or XPS formats. You can
use imagemagick to convert those documents to PDF.
- Papers does not have bookmarks support which is different from table
of contents links for PDFs which have those. The Notes feature is
similar to bookmarks.
- Papers has improved Night Mode and has added digital signature >verification. The UI is a bit confusing but you can also use Papers to
sign PDFs if you have certificates such as those present in Spain's
national ID cards.

Hi,

I tried papers for a bit, and so far it LGTM. I had some weird quirks
where the pdf would hang, but I haven't had time to debug.
Another point to consider is papers having better linux mobile
usability. That being said, I think this is a resonable switch.

best,

werdahias
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Hi,

Jeremy Bícha wrote:

I propose that we switch gnome-core to depend on papers instead of
evince for Debian Trixie.

I installed papers yesterday and in my case I was not impressed as it
feels much slower than evince, both at startup and in operation, with
a sensible lag when opening the headerbar menu.

Maybe it's related to me still using X, not Wayland. (?)

Also, I inadvertently ran papers *.pdf in a directory with a bunch of
files (but not that much, 28 files, for a total of 13M), and the ouf
of memory killer had to intervene.

I did not investigate further as I had no time for it and it was just
simpler to switch back to evince. Looking at it now, with the same
simple PDF, Papers consume ~4 times the memory Evince consume.

Hopefully it works better for others and performance/memory issues
will be addressed but maybe the switch could be delayed to the next
release?


Fred

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