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  • Should sensors-applet rather maintained by Debian GNOME Maintainers

    From Andreas Tille@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 19:00:01 2025
    Hi,

    the package sensors-applet came up quite some time as a candidate for
    the Bug of the Day[1]. I hesitated to salvage it since I have no deep knowledge into GNOME. I wonder what you consider a good solution. I'd volunteer to do the salvaging work if you might create an empty
    repository and leave it for some review. Any other suggestion what
    might be the best course of action is welcome

    Kind regards
    Andreas.

    PS: Please CC me since I'm not subscribed to this mailing list.

    [1] https://salsa.debian.org/tille/tiny_qa_tools/-/wikis/Tiny-QA-tasks#bug-of-the-day

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  • From Simon McVittie@21:1/5 to Andreas Tille on Sun Feb 9 20:10:04 2025
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 at 18:54:25 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
    the package sensors-applet came up quite some time as a candidate for
    the Bug of the Day[1]. I hesitated to salvage it since I have no deep knowledge into GNOME. I wonder what you consider a good solution. I'd volunteer to do the salvaging work if you might create an empty
    repository and leave it for some review. Any other suggestion what
    might be the best course of action is welcome

    This appears to be a third-party applet for gnome-panel, which was part of GNOME 2 but hasn't been part of a normal GNOME installation since around
    2010. I don't think the GNOME team in general has enough bandwidth to
    take responsibility for additional legacy components.

    gnome-panel is still nominally under GNOME team maintenance because
    it's part of "GNOME Flashback" (essentially a continuation of GNOME 2
    for users who prefer that interface), but the majority of team members
    don't use that package and are unlikely to touch it. The majority of
    upstream GNOME contributors also don't use, test or maintain gnome-panel
    and other Flashback components. In practice gnome-panel's only Debian maintainer is Dmitry Shachnev, who also maintains gnome-flashback.

    Looking at sensors-applet's bug list and upstream homepage, it seems
    like it uses various other deprecated things that are on life support
    (such as dbus-glib, which has been deprecated for years) and the most
    recent upstream activity is Dmitry proposing a patch 5 years ago to
    update it for compatibility with newer gnome-panel, which still hasn't
    been merged. I think it's safe to say that this is a dead project.

    Meanwhile, in Debian, all uploads since 2014 have been NMUs, again mostly
    by Dmitry.

    sensors-applet is a leaf package with a rapidly declining popcon score,
    so I think the only two options worth discussing are adoption by someone
    who is actively using GNOME Flashback (in which case they would have to
    become its de facto upstream maintainer as well, possibly by forking it),
    or removal.

    Dmitry has been NMUing it for nearly a decade, so it seems reasonable to
    ask him whether he wants to adopt it, but if not, I think RM:RoQA might
    be the most appropriate action.

    smcv

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  • From Dmitry Shachnev@21:1/5 to Simon McVittie on Sun Feb 9 20:50:01 2025
    Hi all,

    On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 06:59:59PM +0000, Simon McVittie wrote:
    Meanwhile, in Debian, all uploads since 2014 have been NMUs, again mostly
    by Dmitry.

    sensors-applet is a leaf package with a rapidly declining popcon score,
    so I think the only two options worth discussing are adoption by someone
    who is actively using GNOME Flashback (in which case they would have to become its de facto upstream maintainer as well, possibly by forking it),
    or removal.

    Dmitry has been NMUing it for nearly a decade, so it seems reasonable to
    ask him whether he wants to adopt it, but if not, I think RM:RoQA might
    be the most appropriate action.

    Sorry, I do not have time for maintaining it upstream.

    Please do RM:RoQA if it prevents you from removing dbus-glib or other deprecated things.

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    Dmitry Shachnev

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