• Google's Bard test

    From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 19:04:00 2023
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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 09:20:19 2023
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From W. Greenhouse@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Mon Dec 18 05:36:24 2023
    Ed Cryer <[email protected]> writes:

    When I was at school, an essay like that would have got me good marks; even for A level.
    It strikes me that teachers today must have a difficult job. You set kids an essay to write, and
    they get a very good one online. Then you have to decide which kids wrote their own, and which ones
    cribbed.

    Ed

    Prompts have to be quite unique and specific. Or, return to the in-class
    exam with no notes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to W. Greenhouse on Mon Dec 18 12:40:06 2023
    W. Greenhouse wrote:
    Ed Cryer <[email protected]> writes:

    When I was at school, an essay like that would have got me good marks; even for A level.
    It strikes me that teachers today must have a difficult job. You set kids an essay to write, and
    they get a very good one online. Then you have to decide which kids wrote their own, and which ones
    cribbed.

    Ed

    Prompts have to be quite unique and specific. Or, return to the in-class
    exam with no notes.

    Give me an example of a "prompt".

    Ed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From W. Greenhouse@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sun Dec 31 03:28:42 2023
    Ed Cryer <[email protected]> writes:


    Give me an example of a "prompt".

    Ed

    I meant "prompt" in the sense of an exam task--not the term-of-art
    meaning it has in AI research.

    One example would be an essay question that touched upon a prior class discussion of the material, instead of just a summary that any LLM could produce. Bard didn't attend class so wouldn't be able to answer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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