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  • "No, Science Will Never Make Philosophy Or Religion Obsolete"

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 30 01:49:25 2020
  • From Faux Dameron@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 3 19:08:31 2020
    On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 01:49:25 -0700, ggggg9271 wrote:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/06/30/no-science-will-
    never-make-philosophy-or-religion-obsolete/#477031bb5ef0

    Coming on nearly a century ago, Wittgenstein tried to reduce all
    philosophy to linguistics (aka word games) and anything else couldn't be
    spoken about.

    Today philosophy, psychology, and religion are trying to be reduced to
    mere neurology. Neurology as philosophy is truly suffocating and
    oppressive. There can be no free will and no moral agency. We are all diminished to being monkeys who hit each other with bigger sticks. There
    can also be no hope.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Faux Dameron on Sat Jul 4 19:17:49 2020
    Faux Dameron wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 01:49:25 -0700, ggggg9271 wrote:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/06/30/no-science-will-
    never-make-philosophy-or-religion-obsolete/#477031bb5ef0

    Coming on nearly a century ago, Wittgenstein tried to reduce all
    philosophy to linguistics (aka word games) and anything else couldn't be spoken about.

    Today philosophy, psychology, and religion are trying to be reduced to
    mere neurology. Neurology as philosophy is truly suffocating and
    oppressive. There can be no free will and no moral agency. We are all diminished to being monkeys who hit each other with bigger sticks. There
    can also be no hope.


    People like Paul Churchland claim that "folk psychology" will eventually
    be replaced by a future neurology.
    That includes more than just free will; it includes thoughts, feelings,
    love and hate.

    Thank God I won't live to see that. It sounds like the world where
    Terminators get sent back to eliminate opposition.

    Ed

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 13 16:11:53 2020
    Feynman to National Science Teachers Association April 1966 "Science is
    the belief in the ignorance of experts" (The Pleasure of Finding Things Out, p.187). published in The Physics Teacher, volume 7, issue 6 (1969),
    p. 313-320

    As to psych, I have tried to synthesise in http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/psytyp.txt

    Further you have to understand the incentives. It behooves politicians to hijack religion, psychiatry, economics, just about anything. Math may
    provide fewer incentives, but they try there, too. You should not use this to ignore that there are genuine truth seekers in each of those fields brave enough to hold on. Newton, Darwin, Einstein would all freak out how
    politicians try to infer conclusions they never intended.

    - = -
    Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus
    blog: panix.com/~vjp2/ruminatn.htm - = - web: panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
    facebook.com/vasjpan2 - linkedin.com/in/vasjpan02 - biostrategist.com
    ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---

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