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    From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 7 21:05:34 2021
    I’d been wondering for some time about Plato’s and Aristotle’s criticism of
    democracy; that it degenerates into chaos, anarchy and tyranny. I’d come to assume that the’d based their view on the actual decay of Athens’ democracy. And had falsely drawn a general conclusion of democracy per se.

    Little did I know! I’ve just been given a living example of the theory. The world’s greatest democracy reduced and put in the hands of low-life anarchists. And it’s not as if they had a future in view, not some replacement constitution such as France in 1789 or Russia in 1917. No!.
    They were simply using intimidation to foist their own voice onto the
    corridors of power.

    Mobocracy! Demagogic tyranny!

    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu Jan 21 13:11:19 2021
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    I’d been wondering for some time about Plato’s and Aristotle’s criticism of
    democracy; that it degenerates into chaos, anarchy and tyranny. I’d come to assume that the’d based their view on the actual decay of Athens’ democracy. And had falsely drawn a general conclusion of democracy per se.

    Little did I know! I’ve just been given a living example of the theory. The world’s greatest democracy reduced and put in the hands of low-life anarchists. And it’s not as if they had a future in view, not some replacement constitution such as France in 1789 or Russia in 1917. No!.
    They were simply using intimidation to foist their own voice onto the corridors of power.

    Mobocracy! Demagogic tyranny!

    Ed


    Oh, for an army!

    I wonder if Trump knows about 49 BC Roman history. That was when J
    Caesar marched on Rome.
    Caesar said he hesitated for months in Gaul, but his position was
    getting worse and worse in Rome. His tribunes' veto had been quashed,
    he'd been ordered to disband his legions, Pompey still had his; and if
    he returned to Rome he'd be finished - no "imperium", at the mercy of
    the state and his debts.
    So (military genius already well proven, and with vast numbers of the
    plebs loving him (as well as a very loyal army of veterans at his
    heels)) he crossed the Rubicon.

    Ed

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  • From Rich Alderson@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu Jan 21 15:33:42 2021
    Ed Cryer <[email protected]> writes:

    I wonder if
    [the disgraced former president]
    knows about 49 BC Roman history.

    That would require reading, which reportedly is not his strong suit.

    We're getting better minute by minute. Let's leave him to history.

    --
    Rich Alderson [email protected]
    Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
    omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
    --Galen

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Rich Alderson on Thu Jan 21 18:23:43 2021
    On 1/21/21 3:33 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
    Ed Cryer <[email protected]> writes:

    I wonder if
    [the disgraced former president]
    knows about 49 BC Roman history.

    That would require reading, which reportedly is not his strong suit.

    We're getting better minute by minute. Let's leave him to history.


    I’ve been pointing out to various well-meaning people the failed case of Herostratus.

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    "The blind rulers of Logres
    Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
    -- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to John W Kennedy on Fri Jan 22 10:40:00 2021
    John W Kennedy wrote:
    On 1/21/21 3:33 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
    Ed Cryer <[email protected]> writes:

    I wonder if
       [the disgraced former president]
    knows about 49 BC Roman history.

    That would require reading, which reportedly is not his strong suit.

    We're getting better minute by minute.  Let's leave him to history.


    I’ve been pointing out to various well-meaning people the failed case of Herostratus.


    He seems more akin to James Earl Ray, the man who shot Martin Luther King.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Fri Jan 22 18:48:16 2021
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    John W Kennedy wrote:
    On 1/21/21 3:33 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
    Ed Cryer <[email protected]> writes:

    I wonder if
       [the disgraced former president]
    knows about 49 BC Roman history.

    That would require reading, which reportedly is not his strong suit.

    We're getting better minute by minute.  Let's leave him to history.


    I’ve been pointing out to various well-meaning people the failed case
    of Herostratus.


    He seems more akin to James Earl Ray, the man who shot Martin Luther King.

    Ed


    I feel ancient after looking here;
    https://amzn.to/3sPMTUz

    I remember reading a hardback of this book, and being very moved by the
    utter senselessness of it all (later surpassed by the death of John
    Lennon!).
    Now it's a vintage heirloom for collectors.

    Ed

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