i want the clock date on my panel to say
exactly "Tue, 22-Sept" (i KNOW what fucking
year it is!)

but the setup only lets me choose from a
couple of hundred flags

ditto for the global time/date format
that used to be settable as shortdate/longdate

puke!

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On 9/22/18 3:24 PM, bad sector wrote:

i want the clock date on my panel to say
exactly "Tue, 22-Sept" (i KNOW what fucking
year it is!)

but the setup only lets me choose from a
couple of hundred flags

ditto for the global time/date format
that used to be settable as shortdate/longdate

puke!

nor is it possible to set destop backgrounds on a per desktop basis

puke cubed

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On Monday 24 September 2018 00:55, bad sector conveyed the following to comp.windows.x.kde...

On 9/22/18 3:24 PM, bad sector wrote:

i want the clock date on my panel to say
exactly "Tue, 22-Sept" (i KNOW what fucking
year it is!)

but the setup only lets me choose from a
couple of hundred flags

ditto for the global time/date format
that used to be settable as shortdate/longdate

At least in Plasma 5.12, that is still the case. You must right-click
the clock applet and choose "Configure Clock" or "Configure Calendar",
or something. You will then get a window in which you can adjust
various settings with regard to the date and time format, but distinct
from the Localization settings in System Settings.

Note: I am working from memory here, as my only experience with Plasma 5
is through live media. My production system still uses Plasma 4.

nor is it possible to set destop backgrounds on a per desktop basis

You can if you use Activities instead of Virtual Desktops, and then you
can also specify separate desktop widgets for each Activity.

--
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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On 2018-09-24 12:12 a.m., Aragorn wrote:

On Monday 24 September 2018 00:55, bad sector conveyed the following to comp.windows.x.kde...

On 9/22/18 3:24 PM, bad sector wrote:

i want the clock date on my panel to say
exactly "Tue, 22-Sept" (i KNOW what fucking
year it is!)

but the setup only lets me choose from a
couple of hundred flags

ditto for the global time/date format
that used to be settable as shortdate/longdate

At least in Plasma 5.12, that is still the case. You must right-click
the clock applet and choose "Configure Clock" or "Configure Calendar",
or something. You will then get a window in which you can adjust
various settings with regard to the date and time format, but distinct
from the Localization settings in System Settings.

Note: I am working from memory here, as my only experience with Plasma 5
is through live media. My production system still uses Plasma 4.

nor is it possible to set destop backgrounds on a per desktop basis

You can if you use Activities instead of Virtual Desktops, and then you
can also specify separate desktop widgets for each Activity.

From the little that i have tooled around with 'activities' all i have
seen is that that non-solution isn't even close to what i want. To begin
with i have less than no use for anything dynamic, dynamic menus (a huge
flop that the entire planet has rejected) or dynamic panel contents.
Having to click on a panel icon to then see an activity pager on the
desktop itself is definitely OUT. I don't ever want to see any icons
anywhere except on a panel, THAT's why it/they is/are called (CONTROL) panel/s. If i could have an actuivities pager that works the same as the desktop pager and is always visible on the panel with all activities
instead of desktops that would do it but what i see instead is yet
another form of now-you-see-it now-you-don't.

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On Monday 24 September 2018 23:00, bad sector conveyed the following to comp.windows.x.kde...

From the little that i have tooled around with 'activities' all i
have seen is that that non-solution isn't even close to what i want.
To begin with i have less than no use for anything dynamic, dynamic
menus (a huge flop that the entire planet has rejected) or dynamic
panel contents. Having to click on a panel icon to then see an
activity pager on the desktop itself is definitely OUT. I don't ever
want to see any icons anywhere except on a panel, THAT's why it/they
is/are called (CONTROL) panel/s. If i could have an actuivities pager
that works the same as the desktop pager and is always visible on the
panel with all activities instead of desktops that would do it but
what i see instead is yet another form of now-you-see-it now-you-
don't.

Well, that activities pager is there, but it's not added to the panel by default in the Plasma 5 distributions I've tested so far.

But it _is_ there, in the list of applets that you can add to a panel.
And it does look and feel just like the regular virtual desktop pager,
and you can set it up any way you like it ─ number of rows, number of activities, and so on, mouse scroll wheel behavior, and so on.

--
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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On 2018-09-25 1:49 a.m., Aragorn wrote:

On Monday 24 September 2018 23:00, bad sector conveyed the following to comp.windows.x.kde...

From the little that i have tooled around with 'activities' all i
have seen is that that non-solution isn't even close to what i want.
To begin with i have less than no use for anything dynamic, dynamic
menus (a huge flop that the entire planet has rejected) or dynamic
panel contents. Having to click on a panel icon to then see an
activity pager on the desktop itself is definitely OUT. I don't ever
want to see any icons anywhere except on a panel, THAT's why it/they
is/are called (CONTROL) panel/s. If i could have an actuivities pager
that works the same as the desktop pager and is always visible on the
panel with all activities instead of desktops that would do it but
what i see instead is yet another form of now-you-see-it now-you-
don't.

Well, that activities pager is there, but it's not added to the panel by default in the Plasma 5 distributions I've tested so far.

But it _is_ there, in the list of applets that you can add to a panel.
And it does look and feel just like the regular virtual desktop pager,
and you can set it up any way you like it ─ number of rows, number of activities, and so on, mouse scroll wheel behavior, and so on.

I use deskbar style vertical panels, one per side. So I set up an
activities pager and it shows 8 activities instead of 8 desktops. Then I deleted all but one desktop in the pager and then the pager itself. I
now have what appears like the old pager with 8 desktops but they are activities with onedesktop each. It has no dialog to set the number of
rows. For that I have to re-invoke the desktop pager and then I can
change the number of rows. Still no gradient though, I have to fake that
with an image but where I had an image before partly covering a gradient background that is still impossible. Even if it weren't, all the above
footwork just to be where I was with a couple of click in kde4. Thanks
for the hints, I "am" farther ahead than before, but I still don't know
if there will splashma on my computers next year.

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