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    From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Sep 16 09:10:28 2023
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    In article <ue3qnr$3omqt$[email protected]>, <[email protected]> wrote: ...
    Seems to me far too many people try and use shell script way beyond what it >was intended to do - ie navitage the file system, link commands together and >job control - and use it where they'd be far better off simply using perl or >python (or even awk) which leads shell authors to bung in features no sane >person in their right mind would ever need, never mind use.

    You know what they say about opinions.

    Everybody's got one.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Kenny McCormack on Sat Sep 16 09:20:51 2023
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    On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 09:10:28 -0000 (UTC)
    [email protected] (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
    In article <ue3qnr$3omqt$[email protected]>, <[email protected]> wrote: >....
    Seems to me far too many people try and use shell script way beyond what it >>was intended to do - ie navitage the file system, link commands together and >>job control - and use it where they'd be far better off simply using perl or >>python (or even awk) which leads shell authors to bung in features no sane >>person in their right mind would ever need, never mind use.

    You know what they say about opinions.

    Everybody's got one.

    I don't present mine as fact. Plenty of others do. Plus I've been working
    on *nix for 30 years and only twice have I seen anyone try and get clever
    with shell scripts , in one case using co-process in bash. In both cases
    their code was fragile and didn't cope with edge cases and they'd have been better off writing it in a language that had far better error handling.
    $? and trap simply don't cut it beyond a certain level of complexity.

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  • From Kaz Kylheku@21:1/5 to Kenny McCormack on Sun Sep 17 19:24:34 2023
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    On 2023-09-16, Kenny McCormack <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <ue3qnr$3omqt$[email protected]>, <[email protected]> wrote: ...
    Seems to me far too many people try and use shell script way beyond what it >>was intended to do - ie navitage the file system, link commands together and >>job control - and use it where they'd be far better off simply using perl or >>python (or even awk) which leads shell authors to bung in features no sane >>person in their right mind would ever need, never mind use.

    You know what they say about opinions.

    Everybody's got one.

    The version I remember is:

    Well, you know, opinions are like assholes: everyone has one.

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  • From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Sep 17 21:27:05 2023
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    Kaz Kylheku <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2023-09-16, Kenny McCormack <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...

    You know what they say about opinions.

    Everybody's got one.

    The version I remember is:

    Well, you know, opinions are like assholes: everyone has one.

    Yup.

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