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    From J Burns@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 16 12:30:07 2023
    Today my free space was unusually low. I put 2 gb of files in the trash
    and emptied it. A Finder window may not show changes immediately, but
    Storage in About this Mac showed that I'd gained 2 gb.

    I put another gb in the trash and emptied it. This time. About this Mac
    showed no increase. I put 2 more gb in the trash and emptied it. Still
    no increase in free space.

    If I click "Manage Storage" the category Other Users has 3 gb. What is
    "Other Users?"

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to J Burns on Mon Apr 17 05:17:41 2023
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    Today my free space was unusually low. I put 2 gb of files in the trash
    and emptied it. A Finder window may not show changes immediately, but
    Storage in About this Mac showed that I'd gained 2 gb.

    I put another gb in the trash and emptied it. This time. About this Mac showed no increase. I put 2 more gb in the trash and emptied it. Still
    no increase in free space.

    If I click "Manage Storage" the category Other Users has 3 gb. What is
    "Other Users?"

    Do you have other macOS accounts in that Mac?
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  • From J Burns@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Apr 17 18:09:15 2023
    On 4/17/23 1:17 AM, Ant wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    Today my free space was unusually low. I put 2 gb of files in the trash
    and emptied it. A Finder window may not show changes immediately, but
    Storage in About this Mac showed that I'd gained 2 gb.

    I put another gb in the trash and emptied it. This time. About this Mac
    showed no increase. I put 2 more gb in the trash and emptied it. Still
    no increase in free space.

    If I click "Manage Storage" the category Other Users has 3 gb. What is
    "Other Users?"

    Do you have other macOS accounts in that Mac?

    In System Settings, there's a default "Guest User," but it's switched
    off and I haven't used it.

    Yesterday, I put another 350mB file in the trash and emptied it, and in
    About This Mac, the available space jumped by more than 6 gB. The space
    listed in a finder window, and that in Get Info for my disk, remained
    the same as before. Later, I saw that they had jumped more than 6 gB, to
    be the same as About this Mac showed.

    Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
    where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

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  • From J Burns@21:1/5 to J Burns on Mon Apr 17 18:37:31 2023
    On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:


    Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
    where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

    I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
    available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
    catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.

    Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to J Burns on Tue Apr 18 06:43:49 2023
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:


    Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
    where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

    I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
    available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
    catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.

    Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

    Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
    recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
    your situation.

    <https://eclecticlight.co>

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From J Burns@21:1/5 to Alan B on Tue Apr 18 10:35:07 2023
    On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:


    Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
    where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

    I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
    available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
    catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.

    Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

    Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
    your situation.

    <https://eclecticlight.co>

    Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
    calculate Photos and System Data.

    Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
    lower level.

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to J Burns on Tue Apr 18 15:41:21 2023
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:


    Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to >>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

    I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
    available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
    catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.

    Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

    Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
    recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
    your situation.

    <https://eclecticlight.co>

    Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to calculate Photos and System Data.

    Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
    lower level.

    I guess there are several other things to try first from just a restart to running disk first aid in recovery mode. I’m not sure reinstalling macOS
    will sort this out but it’s worth trying.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From J Burns@21:1/5 to Alan B on Wed Apr 19 13:14:01 2023
    On 4/18/23 11:41 AM, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:


    Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to >>>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

    I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
    available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
    catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.

    Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

    Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
    recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to >>> your situation.

    <https://eclecticlight.co>

    Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
    calculate Photos and System Data.

    Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
    lower level.

    I guess there are several other things to try first from just a restart to running disk first aid in recovery mode. I’m not sure reinstalling macOS will sort this out but it’s worth trying.

    Suddenly, Finder windows were showing more free space than I've ever
    seen. It has dropped 20 gB overnight.

    In "Storage," System Data had dropped to 1 gB. It soon rose. Now it's 13
    gB. Maybe it means snapshots. I don't know when snapshots are made and
    when they are deleted.

    Maybe it's normal functioning with Venture 13.3.

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to J Burns on Wed Apr 19 19:56:05 2023
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/18/23 11:41 AM, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:


    Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to >>>>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

    I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
    available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
    catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.

    Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

    Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
    recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to >>>> your situation.

    <https://eclecticlight.co>

    Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
    calculate Photos and System Data.

    Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
    lower level.

    I guess there are several other things to try first from just a restart to >> running disk first aid in recovery mode. I’m not sure reinstalling macOS >> will sort this out but it’s worth trying.

    Suddenly, Finder windows were showing more free space than I've ever
    seen. It has dropped 20 gB overnight.

    In "Storage," System Data had dropped to 1 gB. It soon rose. Now it's 13
    gB. Maybe it means snapshots. I don't know when snapshots are made and
    when they are deleted.

    Maybe it's normal functioning with Venture 13.3.

    Time Machine snapshots get auto deleted over time or if macOS detects the system is running low on disk space. You can manually delete them too.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Alan B on Wed Apr 19 13:24:08 2023
    On 2023-04-19 12:56, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/18/23 11:41 AM, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
    J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:


    Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to >>>>>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

    I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later, >>>>>> available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
    catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.

    Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

    Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies >>>>> recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to >>>>> your situation.

    <https://eclecticlight.co>

    Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
    calculate Photos and System Data.

    Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
    lower level.

    I guess there are several other things to try first from just a restart to >>> running disk first aid in recovery mode. I’m not sure reinstalling macOS >>> will sort this out but it’s worth trying.

    Suddenly, Finder windows were showing more free space than I've ever
    seen. It has dropped 20 gB overnight.

    In "Storage," System Data had dropped to 1 gB. It soon rose. Now it's 13
    gB. Maybe it means snapshots. I don't know when snapshots are made and
    when they are deleted.

    Maybe it's normal functioning with Venture 13.3.

    Time Machine snapshots get auto deleted over time or if macOS detects the system is running low on disk space. You can manually delete them too.


    That may be so...

    ...but I agree that the reporting of storage on macOS at the moment is
    totally screwed up.

    Finder reports: "Available: 44.79 GB (22.88 GB purgeable)"
    About this Mac: "45.34 GB available of 500.07 GB"
    Disk Utility...

    ...well frankly, it's way too hard to parse WHAT it's reporting.

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