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Can you still do this?

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In article <[email protected]>, Ed
Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

of course. many of the common ones already have been.

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On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Yes. Posted this follow-up using slrn built using Xcode CLI tools.

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On 20/03/2023 17:38, Ed Norton wrote:

Can you still do this?

Of course.

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Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:58:42 -0400, Alan B wrote
(in article <tva6si$3klvr$[email protected]>):

On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Yes. Posted this follow-up using slrn built using Xcode CLI tools.

Good to know. Thanks, guys. I wondered because apparently you can't
boot a Linux Distro or emulate one from what I have read.

You can create virtual machines from various ARM distros though using Parallels, VM Fusion, UTM, Liviable and possibly other such tools. Asahi
are working on a distro which will run directly on Silicon Macs.

<https://asahilinux.org/about/>

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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:58:42 -0400, Alan B wrote
(in article <tva6si$3klvr$[email protected]>):

On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Yes. Posted this follow-up using slrn built using Xcode CLI tools.

Good to know. Thanks, guys. I wondered because apparently you can't
boot a Linux Distro or emulate one from what I have read.

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On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:58:42 -0400, Alan B wrote
(in article <tva6si$3klvr$[email protected]>):

On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Yes. Posted this follow-up using slrn built using Xcode CLI tools.

Good to know. Thanks, guys. I wondered because apparently you can't
boot a Linux Distro or emulate one from what I have read.

I've been running *nix software on Macs for decades, and personally I
see no reason to boot into Linux just to run most popular *nix packages
when I can run them natively without that overhead right in macOS.

However, as others have said, you can run Linux in VMs, and there is a
native Apple Silicon Linux distribution in active development.

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Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Absolutely.

And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has had
native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was released in
2021:

<https://brew.sh>

Plus MacPorts?

<https://www.macports.org/index.php>

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On 2023-03-20 13:38, Ed Norton wrote:

Can you still do this?

OF COURSE NOT!
HOW DARE YOU!
APPLE IS A WALLED GARDEN!
FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS!

/s

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In article <[email protected]>, Ed
Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

I wondered because apparently you can't
boot a Linux Distro or emulate one from what I have read.

dunno what you read, but virtualizing linux works *very* well, and
there is work on booting it (not sure of the status of that).

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On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Absolutely.

And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has had
native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was released in
2021:

<https://brew.sh>

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On 2023-03-20, Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Absolutely.

And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has had
native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was released in
2021:

<https://brew.sh>

Plus MacPorts?

<https://www.macports.org/index.php>

Yep, MacPorts also supports Apple Silicon. It's just not quite as
popular as Homebrew.

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On 2023-03-20 14:02, Ed Norton wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:58:42 -0400, Alan B wrote
(in article <tva6si$3klvr$[email protected]>):

On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Yes. Posted this follow-up using slrn built using Xcode CLI tools.

Good to know. Thanks, guys. I wondered because apparently you can't
boot a Linux Distro or emulate one from what I have read.

VMWare supports VM's on Mx. I believe most 64 bit ARM Linux' should run
fine - I'm not there yet (hope to avoid Linux on Mx actually).

I assume Parallels are there too ...

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On 2023-03-20 16:19, Ed Norton wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 14:49:41 -0400, Alan Browne wrote
(in article <9V1SL.90336$[email protected]>):

On 2023-03-20 13:38, Ed Norton wrote:

Can you still do this?

OF COURSE NOT!
HOW DARE YOU!
APPLE IS A WALLED GARDEN!
FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS!

/s

Seems like you have an admirer, Alan.

Just aimed at the usual numb nuts.

I too will be moving code to Mx later this year ...

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Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-20, Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-20, Ed Norton <[email protected]> wrote:

Can you still do this?

Absolutely.

And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has had
native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was released in
2021:

<https://brew.sh>

Plus MacPorts?

<https://www.macports.org/index.php>

Yep, MacPorts also supports Apple Silicon. It's just not quite as
popular as Homebrew.

I remember some years ago using Fink but it only supports macOS versions up
to Catalina, so is out of the question for the time being :( <https://www.finkproject.org>

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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 14:49:41 -0400, Alan Browne wrote
(in article <9V1SL.90336$[email protected]>):

On 2023-03-20 13:38, Ed Norton wrote:

Can you still do this?

OF COURSE NOT!
HOW DARE YOU!
APPLE IS A WALLED GARDEN!
FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS!

/s

Seems like you have an admirer, Alan.

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Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS!

You don't need to get mad at the walled garden as Apple will be forced, someday, perhaps by the EU, to dismantle that walled garden you dislike.

Almost all Linux distros freely run native on non-rooted Android nowadays. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=studio.com.techriz.andronix

Given the walled garden no longer exists, how then do you load native Linux distros onto non-jailbroken iOS nowadays? https://andronix.app/

macOS takes native Linux distros
Windows takes native Linux distros.

Android takes native Linux distros.
What about the iOS walled garden?

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In comp.sys.mac.system Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:
...

And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has had
native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was released in >>> 2021:

<https://brew.sh>

Plus MacPorts?

<https://www.macports.org/index.php>

Yep, MacPorts also supports Apple Silicon. It's just not quite as
popular as Homebrew.

I remember some years ago using Fink but it only supports macOS versions up to Catalina, so is out of the question for the time being :( <https://www.finkproject.org>

I loved Fink during Mac OS X v10.2 days.
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In article <tvalka$1i2sc$[email protected]>, Rudolph Rhein <[email protected]> wrote:

Almost all Linux distros freely run native on non-rooted Android nowadays. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=studio.com.techriz.andronix

except it's only ~70% compatible, according to the developer.

that's not good. in fact, it's worse than on ios.

<https://andronix.app>
There are infinite uses for Andronix. To keep it in understandable
terms, you can almost do 70% of what you can do on an actual Linux
machine.

that's an unusual definition of infinite when it's limited to 70%, but
i digress.

looks like your feeble attempt to troll has backfired, big time.

Given the walled garden no longer exists, how then do you load native Linux distros onto non-jailbroken iOS nowadays?

there are a couple of options, not that there's any point in doing so.

you are confusing your lack of knowledge of how to do something with
there being a 'wall'.

a raspberry pi would be a much better choice for those who want to run
linux, or for more performance, use one of the slightly more expensive
boards.

nevertheless, here you go: <https://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/use-apk-add-package s-ish-linux-ios.jpg>

<https://www.iphoneness.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/27/a-Shell.jpg>

another option, for those so inclined, is running windows: <https://www.windowslatest.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/iPhone-X-Windo ws-VM.jpg>

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On 20/03/2023 22:10, Rudolph Rhein wrote:

Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS!

You don't need to get mad at the walled garden as Apple will be forced, someday, perhaps by the EU, to dismantle that walled garden you dislike.

Almost all Linux distros freely run native on non-rooted Android nowadays. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=studio.com.techriz.andronix

Given the walled garden no longer exists, how then do you load native Linux distros onto non-jailbroken iOS nowadays? https://andronix.app/

macOS takes native Linux distros
Windows takes native Linux distros.

Android takes native Linux distros.
What about the iOS walled garden?

FWIW, I'm running Linux Mint on my 24 inch iMac - all by itself!

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On 2023-03-20 18:10, Rudolph Rhein wrote:

Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS!

You don't need to get mad

whoosh.
Pro tip: when you see /s in a post it means: end-of-sarcasm.


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In article <9V1SL.90336$[email protected]>,
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-20 13:38, Ed Norton wrote:

Can you still do this?

OF COURSE NOT!
HOW DARE YOU!
APPLE IS A WALLED GARDEN!
FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS!

Yes, Apple is becoming that. It was so much fun on 10.1

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nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

except it's only ~70% compatible, according to the developer.

that's not good. in fact, it's worse than on ios.

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth,
where is the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app
on iOS you speak of please?

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On 2023-03-20 20:59, Siri Cruise wrote:

In article <9V1SL.90336$[email protected]>,
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-20 13:38, Ed Norton wrote:

Can you still do this?

OF COURSE NOT!
HOW DARE YOU!
APPLE IS A WALLED GARDEN!
FUCK OFF AND DIE APPLE WALLED GARDEN VICTIMS!

Yes, Apple is becoming that. It was so much fun on 10.1

whoosh.

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On 2023-03-21, nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

In article <tvavhb$1njdo$[email protected]>, Rudolph Rhein
<[email protected]> wrote:

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth, where is
the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app on iOS you speak of
please?

sufficient information was provided to answer that question.

My exact thought when reading his message. It's right there in your
post.

linux users like to claim they're smarter than everyone, so it should
be no problem to figure it out.

I find the people that tend to boast the most are more often than not
the least capable and least knowledgeable.

the real question is what possible reason would anyone want to run a
linux distro on a phone.

Especially a phone (or computer) that already runs actual Unix. : )

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In article <tvavhb$1njdo$[email protected]>, Rudolph Rhein <[email protected]> wrote:

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth,
where is the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app
on iOS you speak of please?

sufficient information was provided to answer that question.

linux users like to claim they're smarter than everyone, so it should
be no problem to figure it out.

the real question is what possible reason would anyone want to run a
linux distro on a phone.

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nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth,
where is the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app
on iOS you speak of please?

sufficient information was provided to answer that question.

You lied. There is no URL. Linux doesn't work in the iOS walled garden.

linux users like to claim they're smarter than everyone, so it should
be no problem to figure it out.

Linux works on Android. For Android, the URL is https://andronix.app/
For the iOS walled garden, the URL doesn't exist.

You lied.
Why?

the real question is what possible reason would anyone want to run a
linux distro on a phone.

That's a valid deflection but it doesn't change that you lied.
The iOS walled garden can't run a Linux distro and Android can. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=studio.com.techriz.andronix

What did you gain by lying about Linux running in the iOS walled garden?

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Ant <[email protected]> wrote:

In comp.sys.mac.system Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote: ...

And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has had >>>>> native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was released in >>>>> 2021:

<https://brew.sh>

Plus MacPorts?

<https://www.macports.org/index.php>

Yep, MacPorts also supports Apple Silicon. It's just not quite as
popular as Homebrew.

I remember some years ago using Fink but it only supports macOS versions up >> to Catalina, so is out of the question for the time being :(
<https://www.finkproject.org>

I loved Fink during Mac OS X v10.2 days.

You can run an emulated version of Alpine on iOS and iPadOS with the iSH
Shell available on the App Store. I haven’t done much with it so don’t ask me for any tips!

<https://github.com/ish-app/ish>

Incidentally I’ve found that installing and running Linux ‘native’ on Intel
Macs is very easy - currently using openSUSE Leap Installed on an external
SSD.

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Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:

Ant <[email protected]> wrote:

In comp.sys.mac.system Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote: >> ...

And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has had >>>>>> native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was released in >>>>>> 2021:

<https://brew.sh>

Plus MacPorts?

<https://www.macports.org/index.php>

Yep, MacPorts also supports Apple Silicon. It's just not quite as
popular as Homebrew.

I remember some years ago using Fink but it only supports macOS versions up >>> to Catalina, so is out of the question for the time being :(
<https://www.finkproject.org>

I loved Fink during Mac OS X v10.2 days.

You can run an emulated version of Alpine on iOS and iPadOS with the iSH Shell available on the App Store. I haven’t done much with it so don’t ask
me for any tips!

<https://github.com/ish-app/ish>

Incidentally I’ve found that installing and running Linux ‘native’ on Intel
Macs is very easy - currently using openSUSE Leap Installed on an external SSD.

Forgot to mention that iSH can also be installed on a Silicon Mac.

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In article <tvbjqb$1po0a$[email protected]>, Rudolph Rhein <[email protected]> wrote:

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth,
where is the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app
on iOS you speak of please?

sufficient information was provided to answer that question.

You lied. There is no URL. Linux doesn't work in the iOS walled garden.

two urls were provided, and it does.

all you can do is dig yourself a deeper hole.

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In article <[email protected]>, Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

For his next trick, I
predict he'll try to move the goal post and claim iSH doesn't count
for "reasons". ; )

that was guaranteed to happen, no matter what anyone suggested.

for 1blocker it's the price.

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On 2023-03-21, Rudolph Rhein <[email protected]> wrote:

nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth, where
is the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app on iOS you speak
of please?

sufficient information was provided to answer that question.

You lied.

No he didn't. The name of the app is right there in his post. You're
just a lazy troll.

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On 2023-03-21, Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote:

Ant <[email protected]> wrote:

In comp.sys.mac.system Alan B <[email protected]d> wrote: >> ...

And Homebrew, the most popular *nix package manager for macOS has
had native Apple Silicon support since version 3.0.0 which was
released in 2021:

<https://brew.sh>

Plus MacPorts?

<https://www.macports.org/index.php>

Yep, MacPorts also supports Apple Silicon. It's just not quite as
popular as Homebrew.

I remember some years ago using Fink but it only supports macOS
versions up to Catalina, so is out of the question for the time
being :( <https://www.finkproject.org>

I loved Fink during Mac OS X v10.2 days.

You can run an emulated version of Alpine on iOS and iPadOS with the
iSH Shell available on the App Store. I haven’t done much with it so don’t ask me for any tips!

<https://github.com/ish-app/ish>

Yep, and nospam even included a screenshot of it, but the lazy troll is
too busy trolling to pay any attention to it. For his next trick, I
predict he'll try to move the goal post and claim iSH doesn't count
for "reasons". ; )

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Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-21, Rudolph Rhein <[email protected]> wrote:

nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth, where
is the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app on iOS you speak
of please?

sufficient information was provided to answer that question.

You lied.

No he didn't. The name of the app is right there in his post. You're
just a lazy troll.

The red nose gives it away, dear.

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In article <1q7yie5.1kyttqselopieN%[email protected]d>,
[email protected]d (Mr Ön!on) wrote:

Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-21, Rudolph Rhein <[email protected]> wrote:

nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

Assuming you're not lying and that you're telling the truth, where
is the URL to that Linux distro non-jailbroken app on iOS you speak
of please?

sufficient information was provided to answer that question.

You lied.

No he didn't. The name of the app is right there in his post. You're
just a lazy troll.

The red nose gives it away, dear.

They're the comic relief.

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