• Re: OT: Alan Baker a no-show again

    From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Wed Apr 30 09:30:11 2025
    On 4/29/25 16:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for no doubt,
    failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past week.
    Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the most part for years now,
    tires rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In the mean time some new drivers are showing up and running fast times.


    And besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about it is a luzer
    stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never tracked an open wheel car.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Wed Apr 30 10:53:55 2025
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for no doubt,
    failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past week.
    Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the most part for years now,
    tires rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In the mean time some new drivers are showing up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is closing fast. He
    has not been competitive for a long, long, time. That despite his claim
    to have run a few fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, because I
    couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite your claims
    of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive every time I've been out.

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Apr 30 10:53:48 2025
    On 2025-04-30 06:30, -hh wrote:
    On 4/29/25 16:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for no doubt,
    failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past week.
    Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the most part for years now,
    tires rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In the mean time some
    new drivers are showing up and running fast times.


    And besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never tracked an open wheel car.
    It was a shame that I missed this weekend.

    We have a couple of new drivers who look like they'll be coming out
    regularly, and one of those is Kees Nierop, former Porsche works driver
    and winner (in class) at Daytona, Watkins Glen, Sebring, Riverside.

    He's now campaigning my friend Bert's 82 Reynard, and I'm sure he'll
    provide a real challenge. How big a challenge is what makes it interesting.

    ;-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Fri May 9 10:32:01 2025
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for no doubt,
    failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past week.
    Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the most part for years now,
    tires rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In the mean time some
    new drivers are showing up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is closing fast. He
    has not been competitive for a long, long, time. That despite his
    claim to have run a few fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, because I
    couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite your claims
    of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his control". That could
    be passing a medical exam. You simply proved you are too ignorant to
    read plain English. T

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a race. The last
    time you did even that on a regular base was 5 or 6 years ago. Last year
    you ran in one race, had a wreck, and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, Liarboy.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Mon May 12 08:30:56 2025
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for no
    doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past
    week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the most part for
    years now, tires rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In the
    mean time some new drivers are showing up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is closing fast.
    He has not been competitive for a long, long, time. That despite
    his claim to have run a few fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your own ignorance. >>>>
    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, because I
    couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite your
    claims of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive every time
    I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his control". That
    could be passing a medical exam. You simply proved you are too
    ignorant to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a race. The
    last time you did even that on a regular base was 5 or 6 years ago.
    Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck, and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered last year. There
    are no results to prove that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, wouldn't it?

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sun May 18 11:12:09 2025
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for no
    doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past >>>>>>> week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the most part for
    years now, tires rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In the
    mean time some new drivers are showing up and running fast times. >>>>>>>
    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is closing
    fast. He has not been competitive for a long, long, time. That
    despite his claim to have run a few fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your own
    ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, because I
    couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite your
    claims of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive every time
    I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his control". That
    could be passing a medical exam. You simply proved you are too
    ignorant to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a race. The
    last time you did even that on a regular base was 5 or 6 years ago.
    Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck, and did not show up again. >>>>>


    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered last year.
    There are no results to prove that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1 weekend
    (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc-club-standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and then
    canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not competed on a
    regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in last year,
    Asshole.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Mon Jun 2 15:41:50 2025
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for no >>>>>>>>> doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event this >>>>>>>>> past week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the most
    part for years now, tires rotting out and otherwise rusting
    away. In the mean time some new drivers are showing up and
    running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is closing >>>>>>>>> fast. He has not been competitive for a long, long, time. That >>>>>>>>> despite his claim to have run a few fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your own
    ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, because I >>>>>>>> couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite your >>>>>>>> claims of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive every time >>>>>>>> I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his control". That >>>>>>> could be passing a medical exam. You simply proved you are too
    ignorant to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a race. The >>>>>>> last time you did even that on a regular base was 5 or 6 years
    ago. Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck, and did not show >>>>>>> up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered last year.
    There are no results to prove that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1 weekend
    (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's from the club
    championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc-club-
    standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and then
    canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not competed on a
    regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in last year,
    Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took the
    restrictor plate out to increase power of your already incredible
    detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating the available
    FF competition and wanted to see if I could play with the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, I did
    compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Thu Jun 19 16:30:15 2025
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for no >>>>>>>>>>> doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event this >>>>>>>>>>> past week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the most >>>>>>>>>>> part for years now, tires rotting out and otherwise rusting >>>>>>>>>>> away. In the mean time some new drivers are showing up and >>>>>>>>>>> running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is closing >>>>>>>>>>> fast. He has not been competitive for a long, long, time. >>>>>>>>>>> That despite his claim to have run a few fast laps in the past. >>>>>>>>>> LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your own >>>>>>>>>> ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy? >>>>>>>>>>
    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, because >>>>>>>>>> I couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my license. >>>>>>>>>>
    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite >>>>>>>>>> your claims of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive >>>>>>>>>> every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his control".
    That could be passing a medical exam. You simply proved you are >>>>>>>>> too ignorant to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a race. >>>>>>>>> The last time you did even that on a regular base was 5 or 6 >>>>>>>>> years ago. Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck, and did >>>>>>>>> not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, Liarboy. >>>>>>>
    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered last
    year. There are no results to prove that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, wouldn't it? >>>>>>
    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1 weekend
    (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's from the club
    championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc-club-
    standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and then
    canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not competed on
    a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in last year,
    Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took the
    restrictor plate out to increase power of your already incredible
    detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating the
    available FF competition and wanted to see if I could play with the
    faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, I did
    compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over and not
    even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about it is
    a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never tracked an open
    wheel car.

    In any event, just because you're nosy doesn't mean that you have any
    right to intrude into peoples' personal lives.


    BTW, I just hit 79. Since you last finished a Formula F SCCBC points
    race on October 9, 2022 I have flown on 160 days, 377.7 hours, 452 takeoffs/landings of which 159 were CAP cadet flights. Also passed all
    my FAA physicals and checkrides (most recent on June 13, 2025) on the
    first try and as of today I am FAA IFR current. Except for some back
    issues never felt better.

    So what? How many hours of snorkeling & open wheel racing have you done
    since Oct 2022? Heaven forbid that Tommy compare Apples to Oranges! /s


    If you ever get a chance to go to Croatia do it. It is a beautiful country.

    Gosh someone's forgotten that they've already said that before.
    How does the FAA check pilots for senility? /s

    In any event, we've gotten enough of an 'all clear' to be able to commit
    to one booking, so things are starting to come back together finally.
    Not to brag about it, because that's what self-centered people do, but
    suffice to say that it took us roughly five years to finally get the
    core element approved.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Jun 19 14:54:38 2025
    On 2025-06-19 13:30, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for >>>>>>>>>>>> no doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event >>>>>>>>>>>> this past week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the >>>>>>>>>>>> most part for years now, tires rotting out and otherwise >>>>>>>>>>>> rusting away. In the mean time some new drivers are showing >>>>>>>>>>>> up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is closing >>>>>>>>>>>> fast. He has not been competitive for a long, long, time. >>>>>>>>>>>> That despite his claim to have run a few fast laps in the past. >>>>>>>>>>> LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your own >>>>>>>>>>> ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy? >>>>>>>>>>>
    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend,
    because I couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my >>>>>>>>>>> license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite >>>>>>>>>>> your claims of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive >>>>>>>>>>> every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his control". >>>>>>>>>> That could be passing a medical exam. You simply proved you >>>>>>>>>> are too ignorant to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a race. >>>>>>>>>> The last time you did even that on a regular base was 5 or 6 >>>>>>>>>> years ago. Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck, and did >>>>>>>>>> not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, Liarboy. >>>>>>>>
    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered last
    year. There are no results to prove that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, wouldn't it? >>>>>>>
    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1 weekend
    (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's from the club
    championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc-club-
    standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and then
    canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not competed
    on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in last
    year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took the
    restrictor plate out to increase power of your already incredible
    detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating the
    available FF competition and wanted to see if I could play with the
    faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, I did
    compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over and not
    even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost interest? Come
    on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about it is
    a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never tracked an open
    wheel car.

    And remember that this all stems from me having the temerity to point
    out that wheel-to-wheel road racing requires more continuous focus than pleasure flying.

    I can tell you one thing:

    As a racing driver, I never have time during a race to just look at the
    sights.

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Fri Jun 20 10:45:45 2025
    On 2025-06-20 10:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-19 13:30, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of
    his control for no doubt, failed to enter
    the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past
    week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle,
    for the most part for years now, tires
    rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In
    the mean time some new drivers are showing
    up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season
    trophy is closing fast. He has not been
    competitive for a long, long, time. That
    despite his claim to have run a few fast
    laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you
    demonstrate is your own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a
    medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I
    couldn't attend, because I couldn't get a
    medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new
    students, and despite your claims of "a
    long, long, time", I've been competitive
    every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of
    his control". That could be passing a medical
    exam. You simply proved you are too ignorant
    to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and
    running a race. The last time you did even
    that on a regular base was 5 or 6 years ago.
    Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck,
    and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to
    drink, Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection
    again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you
    entered last year. There are no results to prove
    that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you
    knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a
    lie, wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on
    1 weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend.
    That's from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-
    sccbc-club- standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other
    weekends and then canceled. That would not be on the
    cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have
    not competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated
    in last year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you
    took the restrictor plate out to increase power of your
    already incredible detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating
    the available FF competition and wanted to see if I could
    play with the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points
    race, I did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over
    and not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost
    interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to
    know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care
    about it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never
    tracked an open wheel car.

    And remember that this all stems from me having the temerity to
    point out that wheel-to-wheel road racing requires more continuous
    focus than pleasure flying.

    I can tell you one thing:

    As a racing driver, I never have time during a race to just look
    at the sights.

    :-)

    And you have no idea what it takes to fly an airplane by yourself
    in marginal weather while monitoring aircraft systems, always alert
    for an ATC call, worried about weather, fuel state, thinking about a
    plan B and C in case things go south. Granted, good weather flying
    is less intense. Like the 12 hours I flew just this week, well most
    of that. On one flight I went VFR on top and had to use Plan B to
    get down. On another I saw rainbow!

    And here we go again.

    Yes: there are OCCASIONS when flying a light plane requires a high level
    of focus.

    I never denied that even ONCE, Liarboy.

    But let's face a few facts.

    In "marginal weather", you avoid flying, don't you?

    "Always alert for an ATC call" means not putting cotton in your ears.
    You're trying to compare listening for a human voice in your headset
    with the continuous focus that is always necessary when driving a racing
    car at speed.

    You talk about the (relatively) brief periods where you actually need to focus...

    ...whereas a road racing driver might get a couple of moments on the
    main straight where he can relax his mind just slightly.

    If there's a rainbow out there when I'm driving, I don't have time to
    see it.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Fri Jun 20 14:52:24 2025
    On 2025-06-20 14:35, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/20/2025 1:45 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-20 10:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-19 13:30, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of
    his control for no doubt, failed to enter
    the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past
    week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle,
    for the most part for years now, tires
    rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In
    the mean time some new drivers are showing
    up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season
    trophy is closing fast. He has not been
    competitive for a long, long, time. That
    despite his claim to have run a few fast laps in the past. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!

    With every post about this, all you
    demonstrate is your own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a
    medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I
    couldn't attend, because I couldn't get a
    medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new
    students, and despite your claims of "a
    long, long, time", I've been competitive every time I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of
    his control". That could be passing a medical
    exam. You simply proved you are too ignorant
    to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and
    running a race. The last time you did even
    that on a regular base was 5 or 6 years ago.
    Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck,
    and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to
    drink, Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection
    again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you
    entered last year. There are no results to prove
    that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you
    knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a
    lie, wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on
    1 weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend.
    That's from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-
    sccbc-club- standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other
    weekends and then canceled. That would not be on the
    cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have
    not competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated
    in last year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you
    took the restrictor plate out to increase power of your
    already incredible detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating
    the available FF competition and wanted to see if I could
    play with the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points
    race, I did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over
    and not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost
    interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to
    know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care
    about it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never
    tracked an open wheel car.

    And remember that this all stems from me having the temerity to
    point out that wheel-to-wheel road racing requires more continuous
    focus than pleasure flying.

    I can tell you one thing:

    As a racing driver, I never have time during a race to just look
    at the sights.

    :-)

    And you have no idea what it takes to fly an airplane by yourself
    in marginal weather while monitoring aircraft systems, always alert
    for an ATC call, worried about weather, fuel state, thinking about a
    plan B and C in case things go south. Granted, good weather flying
    is less intense. Like the 12 hours I flew just this week, well most
    of that. On one flight I went VFR on top and had to use Plan B to
    get down. On another I saw rainbow!

    And here we go again.

    Yes: there are OCCASIONS when flying a light plane requires a high
    level of focus.

    I never denied that even ONCE, Liarboy.

    But let's face a few facts.

    In "marginal weather", you avoid flying, don't you?

    "Always alert for an ATC call" means not putting cotton in your ears.
    You're trying to compare listening for a human voice in your headset
    with the continuous focus that is always necessary when driving a
    racing car at speed.

    You talk about the (relatively) brief periods where you actually need
    to focus...

    ...whereas a road racing driver might get a couple of moments on the
    main straight where he can relax his mind just slightly.

    If there's a rainbow out there when I'm driving, I don't have time to
    see it.

    No I do not avoid marginal weather.

    Yeah... ...you do.

    Leaving Little Rock we entered
    clouds and rain at 300 agl and we in the soup for about 1.5 hours. There
    were severe thunderstorms just north of the track we took, seen by radar depicted on the iPad and aircraft GPS. Those storms were on the direct
    route. The detour cost us maybe 5-10 minutes.  We would have died going through the storms, tops 35-40 thousand.

    So how is detouring around the marginal weather not avoiding it.

    Give it up, loser.

    You fly a light plane.

    For large sections of the flight, you sight-see.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Fri Jun 20 15:01:37 2025
    On 2025-06-20 14:35, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/20/2025 1:45 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-20 10:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-19 13:30, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of
    his control for no doubt, failed to enter
    the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past
    week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle,
    for the most part for years now, tires
    rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In
    the mean time some new drivers are showing
    up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season
    trophy is closing fast. He has not been
    competitive for a long, long, time. That
    despite his claim to have run a few fast laps in the past. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!

    With every post about this, all you
    demonstrate is your own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a
    medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I
    couldn't attend, because I couldn't get a
    medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new
    students, and despite your claims of "a
    long, long, time", I've been competitive every time I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of
    his control". That could be passing a medical
    exam. You simply proved you are too ignorant
    to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and
    running a race. The last time you did even
    that on a regular base was 5 or 6 years ago.
    Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck,
    and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to
    drink, Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection
    again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you
    entered last year. There are no results to prove
    that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you
    knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a
    lie, wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on
    1 weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend.
    That's from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-
    sccbc-club- standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other
    weekends and then canceled. That would not be on the
    cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have
    not competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated
    in last year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you
    took the restrictor plate out to increase power of your
    already incredible detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating
    the available FF competition and wanted to see if I could
    play with the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points
    race, I did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over
    and not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost
    interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to
    know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care
    about it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never
    tracked an open wheel car.

    And remember that this all stems from me having the temerity to
    point out that wheel-to-wheel road racing requires more continuous
    focus than pleasure flying.

    I can tell you one thing:

    As a racing driver, I never have time during a race to just look
    at the sights.

    :-)

    And you have no idea what it takes to fly an airplane by yourself
    in marginal weather while monitoring aircraft systems, always alert
    for an ATC call, worried about weather, fuel state, thinking about a
    plan B and C in case things go south. Granted, good weather flying
    is less intense. Like the 12 hours I flew just this week, well most
    of that. On one flight I went VFR on top and had to use Plan B to
    get down. On another I saw rainbow!

    And here we go again.

    Yes: there are OCCASIONS when flying a light plane requires a high
    level of focus.

    I never denied that even ONCE, Liarboy.

    But let's face a few facts.

    In "marginal weather", you avoid flying, don't you?

    "Always alert for an ATC call" means not putting cotton in your ears.
    You're trying to compare listening for a human voice in your headset
    with the continuous focus that is always necessary when driving a
    racing car at speed.

    You talk about the (relatively) brief periods where you actually need
    to focus...

    ...whereas a road racing driver might get a couple of moments on the
    main straight where he can relax his mind just slightly.

    If there's a rainbow out there when I'm driving, I don't have time to
    see it.

    No I do not avoid marginal weather. Leaving Little Rock we entered
    clouds and rain at 300 agl and we in the soup for about 1.5 hours. There
    were severe thunderstorms just north of the track we took, seen by radar depicted on the iPad and aircraft GPS. Those storms were on the direct
    route. The detour cost us maybe 5-10 minutes.  We would have died going through the storms, tops 35-40 thousand.

    Tell you what, Liarboy.

    Bruce MacInnes is a senior instructor with Skip Barber and has been
    racing and instructing for more than 40 years. He's raced in numerous
    series including CanAm and IMSA endurance racing...

    ...and was the national champion in SCCA Formula Ford racing in 1971 (my class!).

    He's also a private pilot of long-standing.

    Want me to ask him the question, asshole?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sun Jun 22 13:51:45 2025
    On 6/20/25 14:07, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 4:30 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control for >>>>>>>>>>>>> no doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend event >>>>>>>>>>>>> this past week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, for the >>>>>>>>>>>>> most part for years now, tires rotting out and otherwise >>>>>>>>>>>>> rusting away. In the mean time some new drivers are showing >>>>>>>>>>>>> up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is >>>>>>>>>>>>> closing fast. He has not been competitive for a long, long, >>>>>>>>>>>>> time. That despite his claim to have run a few fast laps in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your own >>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, >>>>>>>>>>>> because I couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my >>>>>>>>>>>> license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite >>>>>>>>>>>> your claims of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive >>>>>>>>>>>> every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his control". >>>>>>>>>>> That could be passing a medical exam. You simply proved you >>>>>>>>>>> are too ignorant to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a race. >>>>>>>>>>> The last time you did even that on a regular base was 5 or 6 >>>>>>>>>>> years ago. Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck, and >>>>>>>>>>> did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, Liarboy. >>>>>>>>>
    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered last >>>>>>>>> year. There are no results to prove that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, wouldn't it? >>>>>>>>
    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1 weekend >>>>>>> (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's from the club >>>>>>> championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc-club-
    standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and then >>>>>>> canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not competed >>>>>>> on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in last
    year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took the
    restrictor plate out to increase power of your already incredible
    detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating the
    available FF competition and wanted to see if I could play with the
    faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, I did
    compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over and not
    even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost interest? Come
    on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about it
    is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never tracked an
    open wheel car.

    In any event, just because you're nosy doesn't mean that you have any
    right to intrude into peoples' personal lives.


    BTW, I just hit 79. Since you last finished a Formula F SCCBC points
    race on October 9, 2022 I have flown on 160 days, 377.7 hours, 452
    takeoffs/landings of which 159 were CAP cadet flights. Also passed
    all my FAA physicals and checkrides (most recent on June 13, 2025) on
    the first try and as of today I am FAA IFR current. Except for some
    back issues never felt better.

    So what?  How many hours of snorkeling & open wheel racing have you
    done since Oct 2022?  Heaven forbid that Tommy compare Apples to
    Oranges!  /s


    If you ever get a chance to go to Croatia do it. It is a beautiful
    country.

    Gosh someone's forgotten that they've already said that before.
    How does the FAA check pilots for senility?  /s

    In any event, we've gotten enough of an 'all clear' to be able to
    commit to one booking, so things are starting to come back together
    finally. Not to brag about it, because that's what self-centered
    people do, but suffice to say that it took us roughly five years to
    finally get the core element approved.


    -hh

    We get checked for senility at every CAP or FAA checkride.


    And how does that actually work? "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"?

    ...Tried to get that done for over 6 weeks...

    Appointments can often be quite constraining, especially when one is
    still working or have other competing requirements...and you're not the
    only person in the world for which there can be such delays, and that's
    despite how your schedule is more flexible because you're retired.
    As for Alan, he is a lying luzer. Confronted with unpleasantness he
    deflects by bashing the other party.

    Its a sign of senility to not recall one's own prior behavior:

    "A race weekend a month over the summer? Whoopee. Glad he enjoys it."
    - Tom Elam, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:06:18 PM UTC-4

    Similarly, you told me to go kill myself via a 30 minute dive with just
    15 minutes of air ... remember?

    "I'd like to see you try a solo 30 minute dive to 100 feet with only 15
    minutes of air, including reserves."
    - Tom Elam, Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-4

    Because for readers who aren't senile, the pattern has clearly been that
    you're the one who consistently bashes other posters' interests.

    Apples-to-Apples it's hobby versus hobby. Alan has apparently lost
    interest in his or cannot finance it. I think that applies to his golf
    and skiing activities too.

    He's already mentioned a need to get a medical release...
    ...or did you *also* forget this too already?


    Are you intending to climb Everest? K2? Scuba all the way to the Amazon headwaters? Hike to the South Pole? Dive on the Titanic? Sail a Sunfish around the world? Got to be something like that.

    Or flying the same circles in the sky over & over again in a Cessna? /s

    Peoples' personal interests vary and aren't really subject to your or my criticisms on if they align with our own personal preferences .. or not.



    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sun Jun 22 15:41:33 2025
    On 6/22/25 15:18, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/22/2025 1:51 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/20/25 14:07, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 4:30 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for no doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event this past week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the most part for years now, tires rotting out and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise rusting away. In the mean time some new drivers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are showing up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing fast. He has not been competitive for a long, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long, time. That despite his claim to have run a few fast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and despite >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your claims of "a long, long, time", I've been competitive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his control". >>>>>>>>>>>>> That could be passing a medical exam. You simply proved you >>>>>>>>>>>>> are too ignorant to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a >>>>>>>>>>>>> race. The last time you did even that on a regular base was >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 or 6 years ago. Last year you ran in one race, had a >>>>>>>>>>>>> wreck, and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, Liarboy. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered last >>>>>>>>>>> year. There are no results to prove that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie,
    wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1
    weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's
    from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc-club- >>>>>>>>> standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and >>>>>>>>> then canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it? >>>>>>>>>
    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not
    competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in last >>>>>>>> year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took the
    restrictor plate out to increase power of your already incredible >>>>>>> detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating the
    available FF competition and wanted to see if I could play with
    the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, I
    did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over and
    not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost
    interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to know
    the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about it
    is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never tracked an
    open wheel car.

    In any event, just because you're nosy doesn't mean that you have
    any right to intrude into peoples' personal lives.


    BTW, I just hit 79. Since you last finished a Formula F SCCBC
    points race on October 9, 2022 I have flown on 160 days, 377.7
    hours, 452 takeoffs/landings of which 159 were CAP cadet flights.
    Also passed all my FAA physicals and checkrides (most recent on
    June 13, 2025) on the first try and as of today I am FAA IFR
    current. Except for some back issues never felt better.

    So what?  How many hours of snorkeling & open wheel racing have you
    done since Oct 2022?  Heaven forbid that Tommy compare Apples to
    Oranges!  /s


    If you ever get a chance to go to Croatia do it. It is a beautiful
    country.

    Gosh someone's forgotten that they've already said that before.
    How does the FAA check pilots for senility?  /s

    In any event, we've gotten enough of an 'all clear' to be able to
    commit to one booking, so things are starting to come back together
    finally. Not to brag about it, because that's what self-centered
    people do, but suffice to say that it took us roughly five years to
    finally get the core element approved.


    -hh

    We get checked for senility at every CAP or FAA checkride.


    And how does that actually work? "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"?


    Huh, it's a person knucklehead, a check pilot in the right seat looking
    for every deviation from the applicable standards.

    Here is a link to the CAP forms he or she fills out for pilot renewal:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F_070005A_7EBBF90B76006.pdf
    And the underlying FAA private pilot ACS:

    https://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/acs/private_airplane_acs_6.pdf

    For mission pilot - next step beyond just CAP pilot:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F_070091_C643654236FF9.pdf


    So? Just which parts of these specifically evaluates for senility?

    Keyword searches on senile, memory, cognition ... are pretty bare.





    And what about the subsequent parts of my post which you're avoiding

    You know:

    [quote]

    ...Tried to get that done for over 6 weeks...

    Appointments can often be quite constraining, especially when one is
    still working or have other competing requirements...and you're not the
    only person in the world for which there can be such delays, and that's
    despite how your schedule is more flexible because you're retired.
    As for Alan, he is a lying luzer. Confronted with unpleasantness he
    deflects by bashing the other party.

    Its a sign of senility to not recall one's own prior behavior:

    "A race weekend a month over the summer? Whoopee. Glad he enjoys it."
    - Tom Elam, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:06:18 PM UTC-4

    Similarly, you told me to go kill myself via a 30 minute dive with just
    15 minutes of air ... remember?

    "I'd like to see you try a solo 30 minute dive to 100 feet with only 15
    minutes of air, including reserves."
    - Tom Elam, Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-4

    Because for readers who aren't senile, the pattern has clearly been that
    you're the one who consistently bashes other posters' interests.

    Apples-to-Apples it's hobby versus hobby. Alan has apparently lost
    interest in his or cannot finance it. I think that applies to his
    golf and skiing activities too.

    He's already mentioned a need to get a medical release...
    ...or did you *also* forget this too already?


    Are you intending to climb Everest? K2? Scuba all the way to the
    Amazon headwaters? Hike to the South Pole? Dive on the Titanic?
    Sail a Sunfish around the world? Got to be something like that.

    Or flying the same circles in the sky over & over again in a Cessna? /s

    Peoples' personal interests vary and aren't really subject to your or my criticisms on if they align with our own personal preferences .. or not.

    [/quote]

    ...how is it that you "forgot" to most of the post?


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sun Jun 22 20:31:04 2025
    On 2025-06-22 12:06, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/20/2025 5:52 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-20 14:35, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/20/2025 1:45 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-20 10:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-19 13:30, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his control for no doubt, failed to enter
    the first SCCBC FF weekend event this past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week. Apparently his #21 is sitting idle,
    for the most part for years now, tires
    rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mean time some new drivers are showing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up and running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trophy is closing fast. He has not been
    competitive for a long, long, time. That
    despite his claim to have run a few fast laps in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you
    demonstrate is your own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a
    medical, Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I
    couldn't attend, because I couldn't get a
    medical, and thus couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new
    students, and despite your claims of "a
    long, long, time", I've been competitive every time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of
    his control". That could be passing a medical
    exam. You simply proved you are too ignorant
    to read plain English.

    he term "competitive" includes showing up and
    running a race. The last time you did even
    that on a regular base was 5 or 6 years ago.
    Last year you ran in one race, had a wreck,
    and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to
    drink, Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection
    again.

    You were hardly competitive in the one race you
    entered last year. There are no results to prove
    that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you
    knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a
    lie, wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on >>>>>>>>>>>> 1 weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. >>>>>>>>>>>> That's from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-
    sccbc-club- standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other
    weekends and then canceled. That would not be on the
    cited record, would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have
    not competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated
    in last year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you
    took the restrictor plate out to increase power of your
    already incredible detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating
    the available FF competition and wanted to see if I could
    play with the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points
    race, I did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over
    and not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost >>>>>>>> interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to
    know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care
    about it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never >>>>>>> tracked an open wheel car.

    And remember that this all stems from me having the temerity to
    point out that wheel-to-wheel road racing requires more continuous >>>>>> focus than pleasure flying.

    I can tell you one thing:

    As a racing driver, I never have time during a race to just look
    at the sights.

    :-)

    And you have no idea what it takes to fly an airplane by yourself
    in marginal weather while monitoring aircraft systems, always alert
    for an ATC call, worried about weather, fuel state, thinking about a >>>>> plan B and C in case things go south. Granted, good weather flying
    is less intense. Like the 12 hours I flew just this week, well most
    of that. On one flight I went VFR on top and had to use Plan B to
    get down. On another I saw rainbow!

    And here we go again.

    Yes: there are OCCASIONS when flying a light plane requires a high
    level of focus.

    I never denied that even ONCE, Liarboy.

    But let's face a few facts.

    In "marginal weather", you avoid flying, don't you?

    "Always alert for an ATC call" means not putting cotton in your
    ears. You're trying to compare listening for a human voice in your
    headset with the continuous focus that is always necessary when
    driving a racing car at speed.

    You talk about the (relatively) brief periods where you actually
    need to focus...

    ...whereas a road racing driver might get a couple of moments on the
    main straight where he can relax his mind just slightly.

    If there's a rainbow out there when I'm driving, I don't have time
    to see it.

    No I do not avoid marginal weather.

    Yeah... ...you do.

    Leaving Little Rock we entered clouds and rain at 300 agl and we in
    the soup for about 1.5 hours. There were severe thunderstorms just
    north of the track we took, seen by radar depicted on the iPad and
    aircraft GPS. Those storms were on the direct route. The detour cost
    us maybe 5-10 minutes.  We would have died going through the storms,
    tops 35-40 thousand.

    So how is detouring around the marginal weather not avoiding it.

    Give it up, loser.

    You fly a light plane.

    For large sections of the flight, you sight-see.


    Marginal weather is clouds, low visibility, light-to-moderate turbulence
    and rain. Thunderstorms, severe turbulence and icing are severe weather.
    I fly through marginal weather on a regular basis. Even airlines avoid
    severe weather. Since you are not a pilot you don't even know the
    difference.

    Then too, on May 28 I flew 3 instrument approaches and a holding pattern
    on a day in a 172. Weather was 400-500 ceilings, 4000-5000 tops, light
    to moderate rain, and turbulence. Just for currency and the fun of doing
    it. Woke up, had breakfast, looked at the weather, and left for the
    airport. I was in clouds almost the whole hour it took. That was a lot
    of fun. Indy approach was very busy as a lot of other "light aircraft"
    pilots saw the same opportunity and were out refreshing their IFR skills
    too.

    Weather is often great, and I enjoy those days too. But I don't let
    marginal weather get in the way.

    I'll just reply by noting that you haven't replied to the other post I
    replied in relation to your previous one.

    Not up for that challenge are you: putting the question to someone who
    has engaged in both activities?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Jun 23 09:36:16 2025
    On 2025-06-22 12:41, -hh wrote:
    On 6/22/25 15:18, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/22/2025 1:51 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/20/25 14:07, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 4:30 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for no doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF weekend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event this past week. Apparently his #21 is sitting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idle, for the most part for years now, tires rotting out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and otherwise rusting away. In the mean time some new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers are showing up and running fast times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing fast. He has not been competitive for a long, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long, time. That despite his claim to have run a few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, Liarboy? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite your claims of "a long, long, time", I've been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> competitive every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his
    control". That could be passing a medical exam. You simply >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proved you are too ignorant to read plain English. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> race. The last time you did even that on a regular base >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was 5 or 6 years ago. Last year you ran in one race, had a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wreck, and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered last >>>>>>>>>>>> year. There are no results to prove that at all.

    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew.

    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie,
    wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1
    weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's >>>>>>>>>> from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc- >>>>>>>>>> club- standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and >>>>>>>>>> then canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it? >>>>>>>>>>
    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not
    competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in last >>>>>>>>> year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took the >>>>>>>> restrictor plate out to increase power of your already
    incredible detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating the
    available FF competition and wanted to see if I could play with
    the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, I
    did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over and
    not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost
    interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to know >>>>>> the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about
    it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never tracked
    an open wheel car.

    In any event, just because you're nosy doesn't mean that you have
    any right to intrude into peoples' personal lives.


    BTW, I just hit 79. Since you last finished a Formula F SCCBC
    points race on October 9, 2022 I have flown on 160 days, 377.7
    hours, 452 takeoffs/landings of which 159 were CAP cadet flights.
    Also passed all my FAA physicals and checkrides (most recent on
    June 13, 2025) on the first try and as of today I am FAA IFR
    current. Except for some back issues never felt better.

    So what?  How many hours of snorkeling & open wheel racing have you >>>>> done since Oct 2022?  Heaven forbid that Tommy compare Apples to
    Oranges!  /s


    If you ever get a chance to go to Croatia do it. It is a beautiful >>>>>> country.

    Gosh someone's forgotten that they've already said that before.
    How does the FAA check pilots for senility?  /s

    In any event, we've gotten enough of an 'all clear' to be able to
    commit to one booking, so things are starting to come back together
    finally. Not to brag about it, because that's what self-centered
    people do, but suffice to say that it took us roughly five years to
    finally get the core element approved.


    -hh

    We get checked for senility at every CAP or FAA checkride.


    And how does that actually work? "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"?


    Huh, it's a person knucklehead, a check pilot in the right seat
    looking for every deviation from the applicable standards.

    Here is a link to the CAP forms he or she fills out for pilot renewal:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F_070005A_7EBBF90B76006.pdf
    And the underlying FAA private pilot ACS:

    https://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/acs/
    private_airplane_acs_6.pdf

    For mission pilot - next step beyond just CAP pilot:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F_070091_C643654236FF9.pdf


    So?  Just which parts of these specifically evaluates for senility?

    Keyword searches on senile, memory, cognition ... are pretty bare.





    And what about the subsequent parts of my post which you're avoiding

    You know:

    [quote]

    ...Tried to get that done for over 6 weeks...

    Appointments can often be quite constraining, especially when one is
    still working or have other competing requirements...and you're not the
    only person in the world for which there can be such delays, and that's despite how your schedule is more flexible because you're retired.
    As for Alan, he is a lying luzer. Confronted with unpleasantness he
    deflects by bashing the other party.

    Its a sign of senility to not recall one's own prior behavior:

    "A race weekend a month over the summer? Whoopee. Glad he enjoys it."
     - Tom Elam, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:06:18 PM UTC-4

    Similarly, you told me to go kill myself via a 30 minute dive with just
    15 minutes of air ... remember?

    "I'd like to see you try a solo 30 minute dive to 100 feet with only 15 minutes of air, including reserves."
     - Tom Elam, Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-4

    Because for readers who aren't senile, the pattern has clearly been that you're the one who consistently bashes other posters' interests.

    Apples-to-Apples it's hobby versus hobby. Alan has apparently lost interest in his or cannot finance it. I think that applies to his
    golf and skiing activities too.

    He's already mentioned a need to get a medical release...
    ...or did you *also* forget this too already?


    Are you intending to climb Everest? K2? Scuba all the way to the
    Amazon headwaters? Hike to the South Pole? Dive on the Titanic?
    Sail a Sunfish around the world? Got to be something like that.

    Or flying the same circles in the sky over & over again in a Cessna? /s

    Peoples' personal interests vary and aren't really subject to your or my criticisms on if they align with our own personal preferences .. or not.

    [/quote]

    ...how is it that you "forgot" to most of the post?
    Did you notice how he didn't respond when I asked him if we could ask an experienced road racing instructor and long-time private pilot about the question?

    Maybe he just forgot that too.

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Tue Jun 24 09:24:58 2025
    On 2025-06-24 09:00, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/23/2025 12:36 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-22 12:41, -hh wrote:
    On 6/22/25 15:18, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/22/2025 1:51 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/20/25 14:07, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 4:30 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for no doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend event this past week. Apparently his #21 is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting idle, for the most part for years now, tires >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In the mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time some new drivers are showing up and running fast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing fast. He has not been competitive for a long, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long, time. That despite his claim to have run a few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite your claims of "a long, long, time", I've been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> competitive every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control". That could be passing a medical exam. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply proved you are too ignorant to read plain English. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> race. The last time you did even that on a regular base >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was 5 or 6 years ago. Last year you ran in one race, had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a wreck, and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year. There are no results to prove that at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, >>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's >>>>>>>>>>>> from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc- >>>>>>>>>>>> club- standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and >>>>>>>>>>>> then canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not >>>>>>>>>>>> competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in >>>>>>>>>>> last year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took >>>>>>>>>> the restrictor plate out to increase power of your already >>>>>>>>>> incredible detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating the >>>>>>>>> available FF competition and wanted to see if I could play with >>>>>>>>> the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, I >>>>>>>>> did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over
    and not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost >>>>>>>> interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to
    know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about >>>>>>> it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never
    tracked an open wheel car.

    In any event, just because you're nosy doesn't mean that you have >>>>>>> any right to intrude into peoples' personal lives.


    BTW, I just hit 79. Since you last finished a Formula F SCCBC
    points race on October 9, 2022 I have flown on 160 days, 377.7 >>>>>>>> hours, 452 takeoffs/landings of which 159 were CAP cadet
    flights. Also passed all my FAA physicals and checkrides (most >>>>>>>> recent on June 13, 2025) on the first try and as of today I am >>>>>>>> FAA IFR current. Except for some back issues never felt better. >>>>>>>
    So what?  How many hours of snorkeling & open wheel racing have >>>>>>> you done since Oct 2022?  Heaven forbid that Tommy compare Apples >>>>>>> to Oranges!  /s


    If you ever get a chance to go to Croatia do it. It is a
    beautiful country.

    Gosh someone's forgotten that they've already said that before.
    How does the FAA check pilots for senility?  /s

    In any event, we've gotten enough of an 'all clear' to be able to >>>>>>> commit to one booking, so things are starting to come back
    together finally. Not to brag about it, because that's what self- >>>>>>> centered people do, but suffice to say that it took us roughly
    five years to finally get the core element approved.


    -hh

    We get checked for senility at every CAP or FAA checkride.


    And how does that actually work? "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"?


    Huh, it's a person knucklehead, a check pilot in the right seat
    looking for every deviation from the applicable standards.

    Here is a link to the CAP forms he or she fills out for pilot renewal: >>>>
    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/
    F_070005A_7EBBF90B76006.pdf > And the underlying FAA private pilot ACS: >>>>
    https://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/acs/
    private_airplane_acs_6.pdf

    For mission pilot - next step beyond just CAP pilot:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F_070091_C643654236FF9.pdf


    So?  Just which parts of these specifically evaluates for senility?

    Keyword searches on senile, memory, cognition ... are pretty bare.





    And what about the subsequent parts of my post which you're avoiding

    You know:

    [quote]

    ...Tried to get that done for over 6 weeks...

    Appointments can often be quite constraining, especially when one is
    still working or have other competing requirements...and you're not
    the only person in the world for which there can be such delays, and
    that's despite how your schedule is more flexible because you're
    retired.
    As for Alan, he is a lying luzer. Confronted with unpleasantness
    he deflects by bashing the other party.

    Its a sign of senility to not recall one's own prior behavior:

    "A race weekend a month over the summer? Whoopee. Glad he enjoys it."
      - Tom Elam, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:06:18 PM UTC-4

    Similarly, you told me to go kill myself via a 30 minute dive with
    just 15 minutes of air ... remember?

    "I'd like to see you try a solo 30 minute dive to 100 feet with only
    15 minutes of air, including reserves."
      - Tom Elam, Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-4

    Because for readers who aren't senile, the pattern has clearly been
    that you're the one who consistently bashes other posters' interests.

    Apples-to-Apples it's hobby versus hobby. Alan has apparently lost
    interest in his or cannot finance it. I think that applies to his
    golf and skiing activities too.

    He's already mentioned a need to get a medical release...
    ...or did you *also* forget this too already?


    Are you intending to climb Everest? K2? Scuba all the way to the
    Amazon headwaters? Hike to the South Pole? Dive on the Titanic?
    Sail a Sunfish around the world? Got to be something like that.

    Or flying the same circles in the sky over & over again in a Cessna? /s

    Peoples' personal interests vary and aren't really subject to your or
    my criticisms on if they align with our own personal preferences ..
    or not.

    [/quote]

    ...how is it that you "forgot" to most of the post?
    Did you notice how he didn't respond when I asked him if we could ask
    an experienced road racing instructor and long-time private pilot
    about the question?

    Maybe he just forgot that too.

    :-)

    No I did not forget. He claimed racing is more intense than flying. That
    was just one person.

    Nope. You are misrepresenting what I said.

    That's why you got your sobriquet, Liarboy. It's what you always do.

    What I said was that racing requires more continuous FOCUS.

    Road racing doesn't allow anyone to sight see.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Tue Jun 24 15:00:17 2025
    On 6/24/25 12:00, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/23/2025 12:36 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-22 12:41, -hh wrote:
    On 6/22/25 15:18, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/22/2025 1:51 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/20/25 14:07, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 4:30 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his control >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for no doubt, failed to enter the first SCCBC FF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend event this past week. Apparently his #21 is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting idle, for the most part for years now, tires >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotting out and otherwise rusting away. In the mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time some new drivers are showing up and running fast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing fast. He has not been competitive for a long, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long, time. That despite his claim to have run a few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't attend, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I couldn't get a medical, and thus couldn't get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite your claims of "a long, long, time", I've been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> competitive every time I've been out.

    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control". That could be passing a medical exam. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply proved you are too ignorant to read plain English. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> race. The last time you did even that on a regular base >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was 5 or 6 years ago. Last year you ran in one race, had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a wreck, and did not show up again.



    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year. There are no results to prove that at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, >>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. That's >>>>>>>>>>>> from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc- >>>>>>>>>>>> club- standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends and >>>>>>>>>>>> then canceled. That would not be on the cited record, would it? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not >>>>>>>>>>>> competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in >>>>>>>>>>> last year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took >>>>>>>>>> the restrictor plate out to increase power of your already >>>>>>>>>> incredible detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating the >>>>>>>>> available FF competition and wanted to see if I could play with >>>>>>>>> the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, I >>>>>>>>> did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over
    and not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost >>>>>>>> interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to
    know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care about >>>>>>> it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's never
    tracked an open wheel car.

    In any event, just because you're nosy doesn't mean that you have >>>>>>> any right to intrude into peoples' personal lives.


    BTW, I just hit 79. Since you last finished a Formula F SCCBC
    points race on October 9, 2022 I have flown on 160 days, 377.7 >>>>>>>> hours, 452 takeoffs/landings of which 159 were CAP cadet
    flights. Also passed all my FAA physicals and checkrides (most >>>>>>>> recent on June 13, 2025) on the first try and as of today I am >>>>>>>> FAA IFR current. Except for some back issues never felt better. >>>>>>>
    So what?  How many hours of snorkeling & open wheel racing have >>>>>>> you done since Oct 2022?  Heaven forbid that Tommy compare Apples >>>>>>> to Oranges!  /s


    If you ever get a chance to go to Croatia do it. It is a
    beautiful country.

    Gosh someone's forgotten that they've already said that before.
    How does the FAA check pilots for senility?  /s

    In any event, we've gotten enough of an 'all clear' to be able to >>>>>>> commit to one booking, so things are starting to come back
    together finally. Not to brag about it, because that's what self- >>>>>>> centered people do, but suffice to say that it took us roughly
    five years to finally get the core element approved.


    -hh

    We get checked for senility at every CAP or FAA checkride.


    And how does that actually work? "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"?


    Huh, it's a person knucklehead, a check pilot in the right seat
    looking for every deviation from the applicable standards.

    Here is a link to the CAP forms he or she fills out for pilot renewal: >>>>
    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/
    F_070005A_7EBBF90B76006.pdf > And the underlying FAA private pilot ACS: >>>>
    https://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/acs/
    private_airplane_acs_6.pdf

    For mission pilot - next step beyond just CAP pilot:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F_070091_C643654236FF9.pdf


    So?  Just which parts of these specifically evaluates for senility?

    Keyword searches on senile, memory, cognition ... are pretty bare.





    And what about the subsequent parts of my post which you're avoiding

    You know:

    [quote]

    ...Tried to get that done for over 6 weeks...

    Appointments can often be quite constraining, especially when one is
    still working or have other competing requirements...and you're not
    the only person in the world for which there can be such delays, and
    that's despite how your schedule is more flexible because you're
    retired.
    As for Alan, he is a lying luzer. Confronted with unpleasantness
    he deflects by bashing the other party.

    Its a sign of senility to not recall one's own prior behavior:

    "A race weekend a month over the summer? Whoopee. Glad he enjoys it."
      - Tom Elam, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:06:18 PM UTC-4

    Similarly, you told me to go kill myself via a 30 minute dive with
    just 15 minutes of air ... remember?

    "I'd like to see you try a solo 30 minute dive to 100 feet with only
    15 minutes of air, including reserves."
      - Tom Elam, Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-4

    Because for readers who aren't senile, the pattern has clearly been
    that you're the one who consistently bashes other posters' interests.

    Apples-to-Apples it's hobby versus hobby. Alan has apparently lost
    interest in his or cannot finance it. I think that applies to his
    golf and skiing activities too.

    He's already mentioned a need to get a medical release...
    ...or did you *also* forget this too already?


    Are you intending to climb Everest? K2? Scuba all the way to the
    Amazon headwaters? Hike to the South Pole? Dive on the Titanic?
    Sail a Sunfish around the world? Got to be something like that.

    Or flying the same circles in the sky over & over again in a Cessna? /s

    Peoples' personal interests vary and aren't really subject to your or
    my criticisms on if they align with our own personal preferences ..
    or not.

    [/quote]

    ...how is it that you "forgot" to most of the post?
    Did you notice how he didn't respond when I asked him if we could ask
    an experienced road racing instructor and long-time private pilot
    about the question?

    Maybe he just forgot that too.

    :-)

    No I did not forget.

    Oh, so then you're admitting that you knowingly lied.


    QED.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Thu Jun 26 10:03:53 2025
    On 2025-06-26 09:49, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/24/2025 12:24 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-24 09:00, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/23/2025 12:36 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-22 12:41, -hh wrote:
    On 6/22/25 15:18, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/22/2025 1:51 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/20/25 14:07, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/19/2025 4:30 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 6/19/25 08:40, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 6:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 15:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-18 08:36, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 11:30 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-12 07:05, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 1:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    Liarchild Baker, pleading something out of his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control for no doubt, failed to enter the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCCBC FF weekend event this past week. Apparently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his #21 is sitting idle, for the most part for years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, tires rotting out and otherwise rusting away. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the mean time some new drivers are showing up and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running fast times.

    Alan's window for ever winning a FF season trophy is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing fast. He has not been competitive for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long, long, time. That despite his claim to have run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few fast laps in the past.
    LOL!

    With every post about this, all you demonstrate is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your own ignorance.

    Can you get your pilot's license without a medical, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liarboy?

    So, yes: I didn't enter a race that I couldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attend, because I couldn't get a medical, and thus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get my license.

    But I'm still teaching racing to new students, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite your claims of "a long, long, time", I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been competitive every time I've been out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    Quote from my post "pleading something out of his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control". That could be passing a medical exam. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply proved you are too ignorant to read plain English. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    he term "competitive" includes showing up and running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a race. The last time you did even that on a regular >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base was 5 or 6 years ago. Last year you ran in one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> race, had a wreck, and did not show up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    You shouldn't post after you've had too much to drink, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liarboy.

    Unable to deny facts, you default to deflection again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You were hardly competitive in the one race you entered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year. There are no results to prove that at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Are you kidding?

    First, I entered TWO races last year, which you knew. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you now claiming I only entered one would be a lie, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't it?

    :-)

    I amend my comment, I should have said you only ran on 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend (September) and in only 1 race that weekend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's from the club championship page at:

    And you're still wrong.


    https://www.sccbc.net/racers/club-championship/2024-sccbc- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> club- standings/

    I suppose it is possible that you entered other weekends >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then canceled. That would not be on the cited record, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would it?

    The substance of the comment is unchanged. You have not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> competed on a regular basis in years.
    I TOLD you about the other race weekend I participated in >>>>>>>>>>>>> last year, Asshole.

    But it was not a SBBC points race. And as I recall you took >>>>>>>>>>>> the restrictor plate out to increase power of your already >>>>>>>>>>>> incredible detuned Honda engine. Fail.

    I took the restrictor out because I was bored with beating >>>>>>>>>>> the available FF competition and wanted to see if I could >>>>>>>>>>> play with the faster classes.

    And regardless of whether or not it was an SCCBC points race, >>>>>>>>>>> I did compete in it...

    ...I still told you about it...

    ...asshole.

    One race completed since 10/9/2022? That's it?

    Too embarrassed to admit the truth? Your racing days are over >>>>>>>>>> and not even 65 yet? Poor health and/or finances? Or just lost >>>>>>>>>> interest? Come on Alan, be honest for a change. CSMA wants to >>>>>>>>>> know the truth.

    Once again, besides Alan, the only person who seems to care
    about it is a luzer stalker located 2,350 miles away who's
    never tracked an open wheel car.

    In any event, just because you're nosy doesn't mean that you >>>>>>>>> have any right to intrude into peoples' personal lives.


    BTW, I just hit 79. Since you last finished a Formula F SCCBC >>>>>>>>>> points race on October 9, 2022 I have flown on 160 days, 377.7 >>>>>>>>>> hours, 452 takeoffs/landings of which 159 were CAP cadet
    flights. Also passed all my FAA physicals and checkrides (most >>>>>>>>>> recent on June 13, 2025) on the first try and as of today I am >>>>>>>>>> FAA IFR current. Except for some back issues never felt better. >>>>>>>>>
    So what?  How many hours of snorkeling & open wheel racing have >>>>>>>>> you done since Oct 2022?  Heaven forbid that Tommy compare
    Apples to Oranges!  /s


    If you ever get a chance to go to Croatia do it. It is a
    beautiful country.

    Gosh someone's forgotten that they've already said that before. >>>>>>>>> How does the FAA check pilots for senility?  /s

    In any event, we've gotten enough of an 'all clear' to be able >>>>>>>>> to commit to one booking, so things are starting to come back >>>>>>>>> together finally. Not to brag about it, because that's what
    self- centered people do, but suffice to say that it took us >>>>>>>>> roughly five years to finally get the core element approved. >>>>>>>>>

    -hh

    We get checked for senility at every CAP or FAA checkride.


    And how does that actually work? "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"? >>>>>>>

    Huh, it's a person knucklehead, a check pilot in the right seat
    looking for every deviation from the applicable standards.

    Here is a link to the CAP forms he or she fills out for pilot
    renewal:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/
    F_070005A_7EBBF90B76006.pdf > And the underlying FAA private pilot >>>>>> ACS:

    https://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/acs/
    private_airplane_acs_6.pdf

    For mission pilot - next step beyond just CAP pilot:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F_070091_C643654236FF9.pdf >>>>>

    So?  Just which parts of these specifically evaluates for senility? >>>>>
    Keyword searches on senile, memory, cognition ... are pretty bare.





    And what about the subsequent parts of my post which you're avoiding >>>>>
    You know:

    [quote]

    ...Tried to get that done for over 6 weeks...

    Appointments can often be quite constraining, especially when one
    is still working or have other competing requirements...and you're
    not the only person in the world for which there can be such
    delays, and that's despite how your schedule is more flexible
    because you're retired.
    As for Alan, he is a lying luzer. Confronted with unpleasantness >>>>> he deflects by bashing the other party.

    Its a sign of senility to not recall one's own prior behavior:

    "A race weekend a month over the summer? Whoopee. Glad he enjoys it." >>>>>   - Tom Elam, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:06:18 PM UTC-4

    Similarly, you told me to go kill myself via a 30 minute dive with
    just 15 minutes of air ... remember?

    "I'd like to see you try a solo 30 minute dive to 100 feet with
    only 15 minutes of air, including reserves."
      - Tom Elam, Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-4

    Because for readers who aren't senile, the pattern has clearly been
    that you're the one who consistently bashes other posters' interests. >>>>>
    Apples-to-Apples it's hobby versus hobby. Alan has apparently lost >>>>> TE> interest in his or cannot finance it. I think that applies to
    his TE> golf and skiing activities too.

    He's already mentioned a need to get a medical release...
    ...or did you *also* forget this too already?


    Are you intending to climb Everest? K2? Scuba all the way to the >>>>> TE> Amazon headwaters? Hike to the South Pole? Dive on the Titanic?
    Sail a Sunfish around the world? Got to be something like that.

    Or flying the same circles in the sky over & over again in a
    Cessna? /s

    Peoples' personal interests vary and aren't really subject to your
    or my criticisms on if they align with our own personal
    preferences .. or not.

    [/quote]

    ...how is it that you "forgot" to most of the post?
    Did you notice how he didn't respond when I asked him if we could
    ask an experienced road racing instructor and long-time private
    pilot about the question?

    Maybe he just forgot that too.

    :-)

    No I did not forget. He claimed racing is more intense than flying.
    That was just one person.

    Nope. You are misrepresenting what I said.

    That's why you got your sobriquet, Liarboy. It's what you always do.

    What I said was that racing requires more continuous FOCUS.

    Road racing doesn't allow anyone to sight see.

    And you are totally misrepresenting what I said.

    By your use of the word "and" there, you're admitting to
    misrepresenting what I said.

    Hence: "Liarboy", Liarboy.

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