• Re: No repair tools for APFS?

    From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Mar 22 14:10:34 2023
    On 2023-03-22 13:53, -hh wrote:
    Ran into a glitch with a RAID4 formatted for APFS which got corrupted (possible line surge). Interesting part was that it couldn't rebuild (couldn't even remount to start the rebuild).

    Learned that Disk Warrior only works on HFS at this time, which means that other than MacOS's Disk Utility App, there reportedly are no 3rd party repair tools for APFS.

    Did a wipe/reformat and restoring from Time Machine ... its currently ~7hours running, so 2TB down, 1.4TB to go ... with it claiming 4 more hours to go.

    This time though, passing on APFS and going back to HFS+ format, as that reportedly is recoverable from the SoftRAID software .. plus has 3rd party directory repair tools. Anything else I should be doing?

    -hh

    Micromat's TechTool Pro says:

    'Techtool Pro will test, rebuild, and repair damaged directories on
    corrupted Mac OS Extended hard drives, and optimize the data directories
    when they are repaired. Techtool Pro can also repair Apple's APFS file
    system, standard Mac OS Extended volumes, as well as MS-DOS (FAT32) and
    ExFAT formatted volumes. When rebuilding Mac OS Extended volumes, Volume Rebuild will display a comparison chart before directory data is
    replaced. Use Volume Rebuild to keep your drives operating at their peak performance.'

    <https://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro/>

    Based on other things I've read...

    ...I still think it needs a grain of salt or two.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 22 13:53:42 2023
    Ran into a glitch with a RAID4 formatted for APFS which got corrupted (possible line surge). Interesting part was that it couldn't rebuild (couldn't even remount to start the rebuild).

    Learned that Disk Warrior only works on HFS at this time, which means that other than MacOS's Disk Utility App, there reportedly are no 3rd party repair tools for APFS.

    Did a wipe/reformat and restoring from Time Machine ... its currently ~7hours running, so 2TB down, 1.4TB to go ... with it claiming 4 more hours to go.

    This time though, passing on APFS and going back to HFS+ format, as that reportedly is recoverable from the SoftRAID software .. plus has 3rd party directory repair tools. Anything else I should be doing?

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Mar 23 04:00:04 2023
    On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 5:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-03-22 13:53, -hh wrote:
    Ran into a glitch with a RAID4 formatted for APFS which got corrupted (possible line surge).
    Interesting part was that it couldn't rebuild (couldn't even remount to start the rebuild).

    Learned that Disk Warrior only works on HFS at this time, which means that other than MacOS's
    Disk Utility App, there reportedly are no 3rd party repair tools for APFS.

    Did a wipe/reformat and restoring from Time Machine ... its currently ~7 hours running, so 2TB down,
    1.4TB to go ... with it claiming 4 more hours to go.

    It ended up taking ~11:45, as the backup data hardware was the bottleneck: USB3 HDD.

    This time though, passing on APFS and going back to HFS+ format, as that reportedly is
    recoverable from the SoftRAID software .. plus has 3rd party directory repair tools.
    Anything else I should be doing?

    Micromat's TechTool Pro says:

    'Techtool Pro will test, rebuild, and repair damaged directories on corrupted Mac OS Extended hard drives, and optimize the data directories when they are repaired. Techtool Pro can also repair Apple's APFS file system, standard Mac OS Extended volumes, as well as MS-DOS (FAT32) and ExFAT formatted volumes. When rebuilding Mac OS Extended volumes, Volume Rebuild will display a comparison chart before directory data is
    replaced. Use Volume Rebuild to keep your drives operating at their peak performance.'

    <https://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro/>

    Based on other things I've read...
    ...I still think it needs a grain of salt or two.

    Yeah, that "can also repair" phrasing for APFS isn't quite the same, since it passes
    on claiming it can rebuild an APFS directory (changes the terminology to "system").
    But I do have a very old TechTool license laying around that might be eligible for
    upgrade pricing discount, so this might be an impetus to have it around as a contingency;
    it is after all a bit irritating to spend extra for a NVMe-based SSD RAID which is designed
    to be able to self-heal that then can't do that.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Mar 23 14:09:14 2023
    On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 7:00:06 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 5:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-03-22 13:53, -hh wrote:
    Ran into a glitch with a RAID4 formatted for APFS which got corrupted (possible line surge).
    Interesting part was that it couldn't rebuild (couldn't even remount to start the rebuild).

    Learned that Disk Warrior only works on HFS at this time, which means that other than MacOS's
    Disk Utility App, there reportedly are no 3rd party repair tools for APFS.

    Did a wipe/reformat and restoring from Time Machine ... its currently ~7 hours running, so 2TB down,
    1.4TB to go ... with it claiming 4 more hours to go.
    It ended up taking ~11:45, as the backup data hardware was the bottleneck: USB3 HDD.
    This time though, passing on APFS and going back to HFS+ format, as that reportedly is
    recoverable from the SoftRAID software .. plus has 3rd party directory repair tools.
    Anything else I should be doing?

    Micromat's TechTool Pro says:

    'Techtool Pro will test, rebuild, and repair damaged directories on corrupted Mac OS Extended hard drives, and optimize the data directories when they are repaired. Techtool Pro can also repair Apple's APFS file system, standard Mac OS Extended volumes, as well as MS-DOS (FAT32) and ExFAT formatted volumes. When rebuilding Mac OS Extended volumes, Volume Rebuild will display a comparison chart before directory data is
    replaced. Use Volume Rebuild to keep your drives operating at their peak performance.'

    <https://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro/>

    Based on other things I've read...
    ...I still think it needs a grain of salt or two.

    Yeah, that "can also repair" phrasing for APFS isn't quite the same, since it passes
    on claiming it can rebuild an APFS directory (changes the terminology to "system").
    But I do have a very old TechTool license laying around that might be eligible for
    upgrade pricing discount, so this might be an impetus to have it around as a contingency;
    it is after all a bit irritating to spend extra for a NVMe-based SSD RAID which is designed
    to be able to self-heal that then can't do that.

    FYI, a few updates:

    1. After the restore, Photos wanted to 'rebuild' some sort of directory; went pretty quickly,
    probably due to it being on a Thunderbolt SSD RAID (1200MB/s write; 2000MB/s read).

    2. Upon launching Photos, it couldn't find its prior library. Told it where it was, kind of seemed
    okay at first.

    3. Found that iCloud Photo Stream was missing. Ditto no Shared Albums. TL;DR here
    is that various settings had been set back to defaults(?). Between multiple crashes of
    Photos, found & corrected:

    /Preferences/General/ lacked "Use as System Photo Library" enabled. Enabled. /Preferences/iCloud/ lacked checkmark on Shared Albums. Checked it. /Preferences/iCloud/didn't have iCloud Photos checkmarked (good). Left unchecked.

    Plus over on System Preferences/Apple ID/iCloud/ Photos was checked, but there were some
    oddities on if it should be selected or not. De & Reselecting it returned an error that the Photos
    library size was too large for the current iCloud Storage subscription (duh). Left it unchecked,
    but upon returning later (after Photos/Preferences/iCloud changes?) it is now checked and
    Photos (a) has Photo Stream, (b) has Shared Albums and (c) is no longer crashing. Done! (?).

    -hh

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