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  • Alan Baker, stalker

    From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to bill-o on Wed Dec 21 15:34:47 2022
    Hi Alan, remember this from 2006?

    Talk about stalking! You should know about that.



    Alan Baker
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    Nov 8, 2006, 1:18:56 AM
    to
    In article <45516bd2$0$17472$[email protected]>,
    "bill-o" <[email protected]> wrote:
    "larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Do some homework. I could buy and sell you with my pocket change.

    Yeah? If I bought you for what you're worth and sold you for what you think you're worth I'd be richer than Bill Gates! :-P

    Larry finally made it worth my while (because it would be sufficiently
    funny to embarrass him if my suspicions are true), so I did a little
    digging.

    Larry's business: Del Mar Data? It's website gives its address as:

    "Del Mar Data
    POB 1638
    7671 La Brisa Road
    Rancho Santa Fe, CA 92067"

    Only, as far as I could determine, there is no 7671 La Brisa Road. The
    numbers on La Brisa -- a purely high-rent residential street, only run
    from 17000 to about 17600; making it impossible for it to have been a
    typo either.

    So I poke around some more.

    The telephone number for Del Mar Data, is also listed as the home number
    of one Larry Whitaker, whose address happens to be listed as:

    "PO Box 1638
    Rancho Santa Fe, CA 92067-1638
    (858) 759-7411"

    Now, how many "buy and sell you" kind of people do you know whose
    business and home numbers are the same? How many do you know who don't
    have an unlisted number?

    Interestingly, there is an "Avenida Brisa" which is located right at the
    Morgan Run Resort and Golf Club, but once again, the highest number that
    Google Maps knows about is 4099. And besides, the houses on that street
    aren't the kind a "buy and sell you" sort of guy would be living in.

    If I had to guess, I'd say that Larry lives in one of the 1500 - 2500
    sq. ft. houses to be found on the Avenida Brisa, but lists his business
    address on La Brisa Road because those *are* the sorts of places a "buy
    and sell you kind of guy might want to live, and with any luck, he can
    convince anyone who checks into it that he's a "buy and sell you" kind
    of guy.

    Want more proof? What guy who can "buy and sell you" has as the only
    contact person listed for his business: his own name.

    My dad isn't really "buy and sell you rich"; at least, not unless
    earning something around very low seven figures a year from a business
    he owns 90% of makes you one, but if you look at
    <http://www.factorforms.com/> you don't see his name anywhere.

    Anyway, it just kind of struck me, that's all.



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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Wed Dec 21 15:56:30 2022
    On 2022-12-21 15:34, Thomas E. wrote:
    Hi Alan, remember this from 2006?

    Talk about stalking! You should know about that.

    Probably wrong of me... ...but also 16 YEARS ago...

    ...and Larry posted his personal information in RSG himself.

    1996/02/26:

    "Larry Whitaker, President Larry Whitaker Associates, INC
    215 La Barranca DR dba Del Mar Data
    Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice: (619) 259 7911
    FAX (619) 259 1053 CompuServe 71754,2164
    see our web page at: http://www.wp.com/delmardata

    <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/Pi4Zghjjci8/m/Xn8i9ULtGm0J>


    Mar 3, 2005:

    "Larry Whitaker, President
    Del Mar Data, Inc.
    POB 1638, 7671 La Brisa Rd
    Rancho Santa Fe, CA 92067
    858-759-7411 fax: 858-759-6693
    http://www.delmardata.com"

    <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/WoHSc6U4dmo/m/8Qzw8F6U4cEJ>

    So what personal information of his did I put on to rec.sport.golf that
    Larry himself hadn't already published?

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Dec 21 20:15:53 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:56:34 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-12-21 15:34, Thomas E. wrote:
    Hi Alan, remember this from 2006?

    Talk about stalking! You should know about that.
    Probably wrong of me... ...but also 16 YEARS ago...

    ...and Larry posted his personal information in RSG himself.

    1996/02/26:

    "Larry Whitaker, President Larry Whitaker Associates, INC
    215 La Barranca DR dba Del Mar Data
    Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice: (619) 259 7911
    FAX (619) 259 1053 CompuServe 71754,2164
    see our web page at: http://www.wp.com/delmardata

    <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/Pi4Zghjjci8/m/Xn8i9ULtGm0J>


    Mar 3, 2005:

    "Larry Whitaker, President
    Del Mar Data, Inc.
    POB 1638, 7671 La Brisa Rd
    Rancho Santa Fe, CA 92067
    858-759-7411 fax: 858-759-6693
    http://www.delmardata.com"

    <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/WoHSc6U4dmo/m/8Qzw8F6U4cEJ>

    So what personal information of his did I put on to rec.sport.golf that Larry himself hadn't already published?

    Actually quite a bit. You tried cross checking the information he published and called him a liar. From what I was told by a a person who has tracked you for years on the golf group you went farther than that:

    "Ask Alan Baker about when he stalked Larry Whittiker in rec.sport.golf. Larry invented a golf training aid and was having it tested by a research company. Baker called the company to see if it was true and any information he could get on Larry. Baker
    was also trying to find where Larry lived because he said Larry was lying about living in an affluent neighborhood in San Diego. Turned out Larry was right. Should be funny expossing Baker as a stalker after he accused you of stalking for looking him
    up on FB."

    This is apparently from a slightly different thread.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Wed Dec 21 20:22:20 2022
    On 2022-12-21 20:15, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:56:34 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-12-21 15:34, Thomas E. wrote:
    Hi Alan, remember this from 2006?

    Talk about stalking! You should know about that.
    Probably wrong of me... ...but also 16 YEARS ago...

    ...and Larry posted his personal information in RSG himself.

    1996/02/26:

    "Larry Whitaker, President Larry Whitaker Associates, INC 215 La
    Barranca DR dba Del Mar Data Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice: (619)
    259 7911 FAX (619) 259 1053 CompuServe 71754,2164 see our web page
    at: http://www.wp.com/delmardata

    <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/Pi4Zghjjci8/m/Xn8i9ULtGm0J>




    Mar 3, 2005:

    "Larry Whitaker, President Del Mar Data, Inc. POB 1638, 7671 La
    Brisa Rd Rancho Santa Fe, CA 92067 858-759-7411 fax: 858-759-6693
    http://www.delmardata.com"

    <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/WoHSc6U4dmo/m/8Qzw8F6U4cEJ>



    So what personal information of his did I put on to rec.sport.golf
    that
    Larry himself hadn't already published?

    Actually quite a bit. You tried cross checking the information he
    published and called him a liar. From what I was told by a a person
    who has tracked you for years on the golf group you went farther than
    that:

    What actual information did /I/ post that Lary did not HIMSELF post?


    "Ask Alan Baker about when he stalked Larry Whittiker in
    rec.sport.golf. Larry invented a golf training aid and was having it
    tested by a research company. Baker called the company to see if it
    was true and any information he could get on Larry. Baker was also
    trying to find where Larry lived because he said Larry was lying
    about living in an affluent neighborhood in San Diego. Turned out
    Larry was right. Should be funny expossing Baker as a stalker after
    he accused you of stalking for looking him up on FB."

    This is apparently from a slightly different thread.

    Interesting that you include no link to that thread.

    Again. He made the posts about what he was doing, and made claims about
    what the testing company had said...

    ...and I asked them about it.

    How is checking if what someone has claimed to be true (it wasn't, BTW)
    in any way "stalking".

    Again:

    HE put the company in play.

    And again: I didn't have to "find" where Larry lived.

    HE told us.

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